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FOCUS ON YOURSELF AND STAY SILENT | Best Motivational Speech Compilation
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No one can tell you how it will work for you.
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It's the thing that your destiny is to discover that.
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And you have to make the decisions to begin with
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because you can't do this without commitment.
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You have to commit to it first.
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I'm going to act
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as if I should pursue the deepest meaning possible in my life.
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And there's there's reasons to do none of those.
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So, it's really a decision,
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but you you can't find out what the consequence of the decision is unless
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you make the decision.
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It's weight.
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It's responsibility, but it's there's glory in it.
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There's real glory in it.
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There's deep meaning in it.
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And young people are starving for that.
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And I empathize with a lot of people who don't have
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that feeling when they're 18
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or in their 20s.
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But I try to tell people, everybody has it.
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You're just not listening to yourself.
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You've lost touch with who you are, the core of your being.
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You're on social media too much.
1:00
You're listening to what other people are telling you.
1:02
You're listening to what your parents told you you should be doing in life.
1:05
Listening to what your friends think is cool.
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You're listening to what the culture is all about.
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You got to cut all that out.
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You got to listen to yourself.
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You know, when I was a kid, I was, you know, what's the future?
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It's tomorrow.
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The future is, oh, the weekend on Friday night,
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we're going to go to Johnny's house and we're going to play war.
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That's the future.
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You don't realize, oh, there's you can actually set yourself up.
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What you're doing today is connected to the future.
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Okay.
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Once you make that connection, you say, "Okay, maybe I'll study.
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Maybe I'll train.
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Maybe I'll work out harder."
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You can start doing those things
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because you can improve
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and you can have a better life.
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If you have discipline now, it'll give you freedom in the future.
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But if you can find something that you can keep going,
1:46
something that no matter how small to look forward to
1:49
and continually have faith in
1:50
and chase,
1:51
well then your life here is going to be better.
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Now, heaven or not, no matter what you do, you're all in.
1:58
This is going to kill you.
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So, I think you might
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as well play the most magnificent game you can
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while you're waiting.
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>> We question all of our beliefs except for those
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that we truly believe
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and those we never think to question.
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Mhm.
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And so I would say
2:12
that a lot of my entrepreneurial career even just human journey has been what
2:15
are the beliefs that I
2:17
so so inherently believe
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that I don't don't even see them.
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I don't even think about the should >> true desire in the heart.
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That itch that you have, whatever it is you want to do,
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that thing that you want to do to help others and to to grow,
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that desire, that itch,
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that's God's proof to you sent beforehand already to indicate that it's yours.
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And anything you want good, you can have.
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So claim it.
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That's it.
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Some belief, not just belief in God, but I think it's in short supply.
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And I think more of us need it.
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And if we don't have more of it, doubt's going to win.
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If doubt wins, we all going to lose.
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And uh we got stuff out there to believe in.
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I think people are looking for it.
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I know I am.
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I don't want it just because I get it.
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Hang on a minute.
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Right.
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What is it that I really want?
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What is it that I really would like?
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I want to be scared of the role
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that I'm going to take on cuz I'm not sure where it's going to
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go,
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but I'm going to trust that I'll come up on the other side.
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We have to define success for ourselves.
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And then we have to put in the work to maintain it.
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>> And there are a lot of men
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that I know who are looking for
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that definition that feel like I've been told what it's not
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and now I don't know what it is.
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Let's say someone has been kicked in the nuts a good bit by life.
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How do you advise them to sort of become the hero of their own
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story again?
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>> Man, that's a tough one.
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That's a great question.
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You know, I sit here with a life where I have the the luxury
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to project,
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to ask myself and ask others, no, make a sacrifice today.
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Sacrifice a plastic ring today for a gold crown tomorrow.
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Sacrifice something today for more freedom tomorrow.
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Sacrifice something today for a possible healthier future for your kids.
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I understand that's a luxurious position.
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I'm not going to apologize that I'm in I'm in it.
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But I understand to someone in misery, they're going, "Good for you, man.
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I'm trying to feed family tonight.
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I'm not thinking past that.
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I can't think past that."
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What do you ask them to do?
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My indirect thing I would say
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and understand is well
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if you don't have the hope
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or believe in something you're going to end up you're going to definitely going
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to remain where you are.
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And if you have hope and faith in something,
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I'm not saying it's 100% get out of jail.
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You're going to absolutely get out, but you got the best chance to.
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>> Yeah.
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The book's about belief.
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That's what I'm pedalling here.
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I need more of it.
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I personally believe in God
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but the whole thing is not for people
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that just believe in God.
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Believe in trying to pursue your better self transcendent self.
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If you believe in the future, you believe in your kids,
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believe in the past, something.
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Don't know what that is.
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Ask yourself what you die for.
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Start there.
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Everyone kind of believes in something.
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There's an argument that even nihilist do believe and nothing.
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Nothing's even something.
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I I I I've never been able to really live with by hook
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or by crook.
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I'll get it how I can get it.
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I'll lie, cheat, and steal to get it.
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I got the prize and I'm still okay.
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I got it.
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My own shadow chases me down in the middle of the night.
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And those nightmares do become my own daymares.
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I have to I think I I naturally come back and look,
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I I I hustle.
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I'm a hustler.
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I I I'm not puritanical.
5:52
I'm not making not I'm not trying to preach a absolute straight
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and narrow way to go things.
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I bullshitted my way into things and faked my way into making things.
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Pulled off stunts.
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Why?
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Wait a minute.
6:06
Now, so we're saying if success is the key,
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if success is the measurement and you can get it by lying, cheating,
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and stealing and still be rewarded the gold medal.
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We That's what's happening.
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Are we Are we Are we ready to say that's okay?
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Are we ready to say that's just how it is?
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We have leaders in positions now that are saying, "Yeah, just win."
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Well, ju just just win.
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Just succeed.
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But yeah, I don't care how you get there.
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You did it.
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Congratulations.
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Come to the front of the line.
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So, what are the ethics?
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I don't know.
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What' the winner do?
6:46
Well, but they Wait, what about What about rules?
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Oh, yeah.
6:49
By the way, the rules, if you follow them, you're a sucker.
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Uh, I started to find myself going, "Wait a minute.
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I'm not ready to wave that white flag.
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Are we ready to wave that white flag and go,
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we can see that's what it is."
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Cuz there's many reasons to do so.
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And so I'm looking around at people and going,
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I'm not finding things people to believe in,
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and I'm finding it harder to believe myself.
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that although those people might get to the front of the queue
7:21
and be awarded the medal,
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the medal it that you're awarded
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or the queue that you get to the front of might not actually give
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you what you want.
7:30
And you you start by sort of reframing success,
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which I think is a really important thing, especially for a young generation,
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especially for men who are, you know,
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the first to want to get to the top of the pyramid in certain
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pursuits in life.
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Okay, you can get to the top of the the pile
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or you can get the gold medal,
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but be careful what that medal represents.
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And a medal in what, >> right?
7:49
>> And relevant for what?
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We all want to be relevant.
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Okay.
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Like relevant for what?
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We want to succeed, >> but when we succeed, do we act?
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Is it worth it if we don't profit?
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>> Yeah.
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You said, Yeah.
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>> You know what I mean?
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>> If more we we're we're trained to go the quantity >> is the
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is the is the goal.
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That's it.
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Well, then if that's sacrificing quality >> Yeah. >> or value what we actually value,
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>> what are you really winning?
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>> Sometimes you can do everything right
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and still not get the result
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that you wanted.
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And that seems like a really tough pill to swallow for people.
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I think that's why people become uncomfortable with fully feeling their emotions.
8:37
>> Yeah.
8:37
>> So, where do you go?
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What do you think
8:38
when I really I I gave it my all
8:41
that I bared myself
8:43
and I still got kicked in the nuts?
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>> Yeah.
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>> Not only did I feel like I deserve it,
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I feel like I earned it and I still didn't get it.
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>> Wait a minute.
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But you said that's the playbook and I followed the playbook.
8:55
You said these were the rules and the regulations.
8:57
I followed it and I was good at it.
9:00
I still didn't get it.
9:05
Is there something that you tried to remember about the upside of a crisis
9:09
during a crisis or do we just need to ride
9:11
that out?
9:12
Zooming out would be
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so beautiful and in retrospect
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if only you could give yourself the gift of distance of time.
9:21
>> Yeah.
9:21
>> Yeah.
9:21
And yet you know something hard is going to come again
9:24
and you're going to be swept away by the wave.
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I mean, for me,
9:28
I it's it's an obvious dance of the both
9:30
because you can't jump to the objective right away
9:33
and go,
9:34
"Inshallah, oh, fate will have it.
9:37
This two shall pass.
9:38
I'm I'm fine."
9:39
No, cuz then you don't deal with the the crisis.
9:42
Um, I do have a good I do have a pretty quick threshold for
9:45
being able to laugh,
9:46
like, honestly, start giggling
9:48
when I'm in the
9:50
because I found that I'm able to handle the better
9:53
if I just start the quicker I start going,
9:54
"Are you kidding me?"
9:55
I'll get objective and remind myself things like you're going to die mccay
10:04
which gives me that ah
10:05
so what this is not
10:06
as big of a deal
10:07
as I thought you said
10:09
that a harmless man is not a good man a good man is a
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very dangerous man who has
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that under voluntary control how should people become more dangerous >> becoming more articulate
10:20
is definitely that's the primary array of weapons
10:26
If you can think
10:26
and speak and write,
10:28
you are absolutely deadly.
10:31
Nothing can get in your way.
10:33
So that's why you learn to write.
10:34
It's like it's power.
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And I mean power of the best sort.
10:38
It's authority and influence and respectability and competence.
10:42
And so you come to university to craft your highest skill.
10:45
And your highest skill is to be found in articulated speech.
10:49
And if you're a master at formulating your arguments, you win everything.
10:54
You need to learn to think
10:57
because thinking makes you act effectively in the world.
10:59
Thinking makes you win the battles you undertake.
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And those could be battles for good things.
11:04
And if you can formulate your arguments coherently and make a presentation,
11:08
if you can speak to people, if you can lay out a proposal, God,
11:12
people give you money, they give you opportunities, you have influence,
11:17
teach people to be articulate
11:20
because that's the most dangerous thing you can possibly be.
11:24
So, and that's motivating if people know that.
11:26
It's like, well, why are you learning to write?
11:28
Cuz you're here's your sword.
11:30
Here's your M16, right?
11:31
Here's your bulletproof vest.
11:34
Like, you learn how to use them.
11:36
It's very helpful for people to hear
11:37
that they should make themselves competent
11:39
and dangerous and take their proper place in the world.
11:42
>> Competent and dangerous.
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>> Why dangerous?
11:45
Because it's the alternative to being weak.
11:48
Because it makes you formidable.
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Even if the world was conspiring against me
11:57
and my failure was 95% the fault of external occurrences
12:03
and other people,
12:05
what did I do that wasn't as good as it could have been?
12:08
And where did I fail to look
12:10
so that the probability of my failure was higher?
12:14
Now, now to ask that question, you have to want the answer.
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That's that's what it means to knock or to ask or to seek.
12:20
This this is no joke.
12:22
It's like you have to want to know.
12:23
And it's a very painful thing to do
12:25
because especially if you had given it your all to the degree you were
12:30
able and you have reason to be bitter,
12:35
you're going to be searching for the errors that you still made.
12:38
And discovering your own errors is always extremely painful, right?
12:42
Especially if they're errors that you're in love with.
12:45
And so you have to be willing to strip yourself down.
12:48
That's what humility means fundamentally.
12:50
But the advantage is this is why it's so useful to listen to people.
12:54
You might find out where you're stupid and then you can stop being stupid.
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And so one of the reasons you confess your sins, let's say,
13:03
is because you want to discover where you're insufficient.
13:07
Now, it's painful.
13:08
You know, it's painful to encounter an impediment in the form of someone else's
13:13
opinion that might show you where you're blind
13:15
and ignorant or willfully blind even.
13:18
But the advantage to
13:19
that is you can rectify the error
13:21
and then as you move forward,
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you're stronger.
13:24
You know, one of the things I taught my kids
13:26
and I hope at least somewhat successfully was
13:29
that you should always ask a stupid question.
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And and that doesn't mean the sort of question
13:35
that someone who wasn't paying attention would ask.
13:39
If you're listening to someone
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and you don't understand what they're saying
13:45
and you reveal that,
13:47
you're revealing your ignorance, you know,
13:49
and maybe you're in a room full of people
13:50
and you think you're the only person stupid enough to not get it,
13:53
which is very rarely the case, by the way.
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The thing is though,
13:56
if you if you reveal that ignorance to yourself and to the other person,
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they can rectify it.
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And if you do that a thousand times, you're not ignorant anymore.
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If you ask a thousand dumb questions and you listen to the answer,
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then you know a thousand things,
14:12
some of them deep that you didn't know before.
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So that's the that's the advantage to searching your soul, let's say,
14:19
for the for unrequited sins and attempting to atone.
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That's not a delusion, right?
14:25
It's an attempt to set yourself right.
14:28
And so you write an autobiography
14:30
because you need to know where you are
14:32
and who you are right now.
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Because how the hell are you going to plot a pathway to the future
14:37
unless you know where you are?
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And then you need to write about the future.
14:41
Because you aren't going to hit something unless you aim at it.
14:45
That's for sure.
14:46
And lots of times people won't aim at what they want because they're afraid.
14:50
The reason they're afraid is because if you specify what you want,
14:53
you've specified your conditions of failure. you know
14:56
when you fail and it's better just to keep it foggy.
14:59
It's like well I don't know
15:00
if I'm succeeding or failing
15:01
but you know I can't really tell.
15:03
Well great except you can't hit anything you don't aim at.
15:08
And so the future authoring problem program is like a it's an attempt to
15:13
have you articulate your character
15:15
and and so is the past authoring program.
15:17
Who are you?
15:18
Important events that have shaped who you are.
15:20
And you know, you may find
15:22
that some of those some of
15:23
that writing makes you emotional.
15:24
And I would say
15:26
if you have a memory that's more than 18 months old,
15:28
roughly speaking, and when you bring it to mind,
15:31
it it has an emotional impact, especially a negative emotional impact,
15:36
there's it's like part of your soul is stuck back there.
15:40
And and I know that's a metaphorical way of thinking about it,
15:43
but what I mean is
15:47
that the reason that you still experience the emotion is
15:51
because you have not solved the problem
15:51
that that situation faced you with.
15:55
It might be a real problem.
15:56
Like maybe you got tangled up with someone who was really bad
15:59
and that's rough,
16:00
man, because you got to come up with a theory of malevolence to deal
16:02
with something like that.
16:03
And that's no joke.
16:05
But if it still produces emotion,
16:08
it means you haven't solved the problem.
16:10
and be and your your brain is still tagging it
16:12
as threat.
16:13
It's it's a part of your territory that you did not master.
16:16
Threat, threat, threat, threat, threat.
16:18
And until you take it apart, and articulation really helps that,
16:22
writing really helps that, then you're not going to free yourself from its grip.
16:27
Put yourself together.
16:29
And then maybe if you put yourself together, you know how to do that.
16:32
You know what's wrong with you if you'll admit it.
16:34
You know, there's a few things you could like polish up a little bit
16:38
that you might even be able to manage in your insufficient present condition.
16:42
And so you might shine yourself up a little bit
16:44
and then your eyes will be a little more open.
16:46
Then you can shine yourself up a little bit more.
16:48
And then maybe you could bring your family together instead of having them be
16:52
the hateful,
16:53
spiteful, neurotic, infighting batch that you're like doomed to spend Christmas with.
17:02
So then you fix yourself up a little bit kind of humbly
17:05
because you know God you're a fixer upper
17:07
if there ever was one.
17:08
And then you got to figure out well can you figure out how to
17:11
make peace with your idiot brother
17:13
and probably not because he's just
17:14
as dumb as you.
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So how the hell are you going to manage that?
17:18
And so then you maybe you get somewhere
17:20
that way and your family's sort of functioning
17:21
and you find out well
17:23
that kind of relieved a little bit of suffering
17:25
although it reduced the opportunities for spiteful revenge
17:28
and that's kind of a pain in the neck.
17:30
And so then you get your family together a little bit
17:33
and you're a little clued in
17:34
then at least a bit
17:36
because you've done something difficult that's actually difficult.
17:39
You're a little wiser
17:40
and so then maybe you could put a tentative finger out beyond the family
17:44
and try to change some little thing without wrecking it.
17:47
It's like our society is complex
17:49
and we teach our students
17:50
that they could just fix it.
17:52
It's like go fix a military helicopter
17:54
and see how far you get with
17:56
that.
17:56
It's like you what are you going to do?
17:58
You're like a chimp with a wrench.
17:59
Whack.
18:00
Oh, look.
18:01
It's better.
18:02
It's like no, it's not better.
18:04
Things are complicated and to fix things is really hard
18:08
and you have to be like a a golden tool to fix things
18:12
and you're not.
18:15
How do you overcome the suffering of life is be a better person.
18:19
That's how you do it.
18:20
Well, that's hard.
18:22
It takes responsibility.
18:24
And I think, you know, if you said to someone,
18:26
you want to have a meaningful life, everything you do matters.
18:30
That's the definition of a meaningful life.
18:32
But everything you do matters.
18:35
You're going to have to carry that with you.
18:38
Or do you want to just forget about the whole meaning thing
18:40
and then you don't have any responsibility
18:43
because who the hell cares
18:44
and you can wander through life doing whatever you want gratifying impulsive desires for
18:49
how useful that's going to be
18:51
and you're stuck in meaninglessness
18:53
but you don't have any responsibility.
18:55
Which one do you want?
18:56
Well, ask yourself which one are you pursuing?
19:03
It's an interesting paradox
19:05
that the energy it requires to start doing something is way more than the
19:09
energy required to continue doing the thing.
19:12
It won't get harder.
19:14
Like this is the hardest part.
19:17
And so if you can just make it through this, everything else is downhill.
19:21
It's not that the things
19:22
that you're the dragons you're going to slay aren't going to get bigger.
19:24
They are.
19:25
But you become so much more equipped to slay them back.
19:28
And you have so many more allies.
19:29
You have people in the stands cheering for you.
19:31
You have the audience.
19:32
You have all of these other things that are behind you.
19:35
But in the beginning, it's just you with a stick against a bear.
19:39
And arguably that fight is a harder fight to win than beating a dragon
19:44
when you have a nuclear bomb
19:46
and six nations behind you.
19:48
And so it's not even like the the size of the hardship.
19:51
It's just also the resources
19:52
and how few of them you have
19:54
and how so much of the beginning is literally burning the one thing you
19:57
have,
19:58
which is time. because you have no leverage.
20:00
You don't have the money to pay other people to help you.
20:02
You don't have the resources to go you no one can learn it for
20:05
you.
20:05
It's like there's a lot of the things
20:07
that that we care about a lot like no one can work out for
20:10
you.
20:10
Doesn't matter how much money you have, no one can learn skills for you.
20:13
And so in the early days like it feels
20:16
so painful cuz you're like you look around to see who can help you
20:18
and then you're like it's me again. those early days,
20:22
that little trench winning in the weeds often times gives you these huge advantages
20:28
later on because you have more context than anyone else.
20:30
And so rather than lament them
20:32
and hate the fact
20:34
that you're going through it,
20:36
remembering that these will be arrows
20:38
that you put in the quiver
20:39
that you're going to be using to slay the future bigger dragons.
20:42
And so expecting it to be easy is what makes it much harder than
20:46
it ever is.
20:49
Every single difficult thing
20:50
that you do is kind of like a massive wall
20:53
that you need to get over
20:54
and you go,
20:55
"Wow, I'm so glad that I've got over that wall."
20:58
And you know, think about how many other people are going to fall at
21:02
that wall there.
21:07
Trying to assume that I need perfect conditions in order to start
21:11
because I mean starting is the perfect condition. like whatever condition
21:16
that you're in that you start was the perfect condition.
21:19
What's wild about the fear
21:22
that people have when they're starting out is
21:25
that they say things like,
21:27
"I have nothing going for me.
21:28
I have no advantages.
21:30
I have nothing to my name.
21:31
I have no money.
21:32
I have no network.
21:33
I have no resources."
21:34
But it also means that you have nothing to lose,
21:37
which makes you incredibly dangerous.
21:41
And I think people wildly underestimate how many shots on goal you can take
21:46
when you have nothing to lose.
21:47
Whereas when someone has something to lose,
21:49
they have to be more and more selective about the the shots they take.
21:52
And so you have the perfect conditions for taking risk
21:55
because the worst case scenario is baseline is where you're currently at.
21:59
>> Correct.
22:00
And >> the downside is this.
22:02
>> Which means that it's like going to the casino and playing craps.
22:06
But they say that you can just keep playing until you win.
22:10
But people are afraid to roll.
22:13
But I love this question
22:15
which is what would you do
22:16
if you weren't afraid?
22:18
And I just I love thinking about
22:20
that when I'm thinking about big life decisions like what would I do
22:22
if I weren't afraid?
22:23
And what would I do if I knew I couldn't fail?
22:26
And fear is a mile wide and an inch deep.
22:30
And so it looks like this ocean
22:31
that you're going to step into
22:32
and drown.
22:33
But as soon as you step into it,
22:34
you realize it was not that deep at all.
22:37
And you can keep walking through it.
22:40
And um I just love
22:40
that visual because a lot of times
22:42
when it's like we have this anxiety around this big decision we have to
22:44
make if you actually take the step
22:46
and realize that it's not death.
22:48
You're not going to drown immediately.
22:49
There's plenty of other steps you can take from there.
22:51
Even if you get a little wet one of the other common areas I
22:58
think that people are struggling with,
22:59
you speak to a lot of young men, train a lot of young men.
23:03
What's your advice to young men that are struggling with direction in life?
23:08
>> Like there are a bunch of young men out there
23:12
and they are getting after it.
23:14
Whether they're linemen, whether they're on oil rigs, whether they're software developers,
23:18
like there's all kinds of people that are out there crushing.
23:23
And so when I hear about people
23:26
that would you say are lost
23:28
or >> directionless?
23:32
>> Directionless.
23:32
Yeah.
23:32
I mean, what do you want to do with your life?
23:35
I guess that's my question.
23:38
What do you want to do with your life?
23:39
Because you got one life.
23:41
It's It's going by quickly.
23:43
And this is something
23:44
that years ago I I spent a good chunk of my I guess it
23:48
was my 30s training MMA fighters.
23:52
And, you know, we had a jiu-jitsu gym, we had an MMA gym.
23:56
And so in the beginning
23:59
when a a potential fighter would come in
24:01
and they'd be 22 years old
24:03
and I'd say hey how old are you
24:05
and they'd say I'm 22
24:06
and and they say you know I want to fight I want to there's
24:08
a fight card coming up I want to be on it
24:10
and I was like I'd tell him listen you got plenty of time like
24:12
get better train up your skills
24:16
and I said that for probably three
24:18
or four years and
24:20
then after three or four years
24:23
when guys would come in I would start telling um the opposite,
24:27
which is you need to get on it.
24:30
You need to be in here every day.
24:32
The you're you're almost out of time.
24:34
You're 22.
24:35
You're late.
24:37
Because I realized I saw a lot of people
24:39
that didn't have any sense of urgency in their life.
24:42
And when you don't have a sense of urgency, things aren't going to happen.
24:45
You need to make things happen.
24:46
As we already discussed, they're not just going to happen for you.
24:48
You're not going to become a good fighter unless you make it happen.
24:53
And you're not going to do anything in life unless you make it happen.
24:56
So if you feel like right now you're looking around with
25:00
and you're lost or directionless,
25:03
I would take about 15 minutes
25:05
and figure out what the hell you want to do with your life.
25:07
And I would start getting after it.
25:10
So that's that's my advice.
25:12
Take 15 minutes, figure out something that you're into,
25:14
and go crush that thing and and and make it happen.
25:20
For better or worse, life is really short.
25:23
And it's this ridiculous irony
25:28
that you only see in retrospect how short it is,
25:31
right?
25:31
It doesn't feel short at the time,
25:33
but I bet when you get to your 80s and you look back,
25:37
you think, "Holy that went by in no time at all."
25:43
>> Yeah.
25:43
I had that conversation with my with my mom a couple years ago
25:47
and you know she said you know I was like oh how's it going
25:52
talking on the phone
25:52
and she said oh it's been a pretty rough couple months
25:56
because this person died this person died this person died
25:59
and you know you know she's almost 80
26:01
or something like that
26:02
and so I I kind of I said to her you know mom all
26:07
those people that you're talking about
26:08
that are 80 85 87 years old.
26:14
Like they've had a full run at it.
26:16
I'm like I I buried my friends that are 27 years old,
26:21
30 years old, 31 years old.
26:22
Like that's that's horrible.
26:26
And so people that got this full run, man,
26:31
be thankful that they got that full run.
26:34
>> It It is.
26:35
I I understand why some people have degrees of regret around
26:38
that because they think like,
26:40
I I I don't know where that time went.
26:42
I wish I'd known this thing sooner.
26:44
But again, if action's the antidote to anxiety,
26:47
the only way that you can work out what it is
26:48
that you need to do is by hurrying up
26:50
and doing it.
26:51
And again, if the fear of failure,
26:54
uh the the fear of the unknown is worse than the actual thing,
26:58
you know, it it all ties together, I think, everything that we've spoken about.
27:02
>> Like, yeah, you're going to blow some stuff.
27:03
You're going to make some bad decisions.
27:05
You're going to screw some things up.
27:06
Yeah, that's kind of cool.
27:08
Like that those make for good stories, man.
27:10
Go get them. go make them happen.
27:13
>> Mhm.
27:13
>> And right now,
27:15
if you're a dude
27:16
and you're 22 years old
27:18
and you feel like you're directionless,
27:20
get your together, man, and and go start making things happen.
27:30
You spent a good bit of your career in situations
27:32
that would cause most people to feel a ton of fear.
27:35
I think that fear is related to this confidence, conviction in my decisions.
27:40
What have you learned about how to deal with and overcome fear?
27:49
>> Go.
27:49
Go.
27:49
When all that fear that's in your head,
27:52
all the whatifs and the scenarios
27:54
that you create inside your own mind
27:56
that are way worse than anything
27:58
that is actually going to happen,
28:00
they all disappear when you go.
28:02
That is the moment that can last a million years is waiting to go.
28:07
And I found I I'm pretty good at it now where oh I'm like
28:10
oh yeah I know what
28:11
that is and I'm going
28:12
and then that's it.
28:13
And once you go, you know, driving even, you know,
28:18
speaking of in being in combat,
28:20
if we were driving to a target and you're, you know,
28:24
so you're going to go hit a target somewhere and driving to the target,
28:28
the closer you get, you're thinking about all the things that go wrong,
28:31
all the bad things that are going to happen, all this stuff.
28:33
When one of my guys gets wounded,
28:34
what if they have IEDs in the yard?
28:36
Like there's a bunch of things going through your mind.
28:38
Once you like stop, get out of the vehicle,
28:42
you all those things go away.
28:43
Yep.
28:43
And you're doing the thing and you're not worried about it anymore.
28:47
And so it's just go.
28:49
That's that's that's the answer.
28:51
>> Action is an antidote to anxiety though, >> man.
28:53
Action is an antidote to all kinds of problems in life.
28:57
>> Yeah.
28:57
Even going back to like the obstacle course,
28:59
which I think the tallest obstacle on the obstacle course might be the cargo
29:04
net.
29:05
I don't know how tall it is,
29:06
but it's tall enough
29:06
that you are not going to be in good shape
29:08
if you fall.
29:09
And you have to climb up the t cargo net
29:11
and then you have to go over the top of it
29:13
and then climb back down the other side.
29:15
If you're freaked out or you're scared, you're going to get stuck there.
29:20
And there's guys that do get stuck.
29:22
They don't climb over the top of it.
29:23
Not a lot, but there's occasionally guys that it's they're not it's not happening.
29:28
So the longer that you sit,
29:30
you hang on and look
29:32
and stare and contemplate the chances of you falling off,
29:36
it doesn't get any better.
29:37
So eventually you just throw your leg over and get over that damn thing.
29:41
So I think I probably just experienced it enough
29:43
and was cognizant enough to recognize
29:47
that at some point,
29:48
oh yeah, this feeling of caution
29:51
and fear and all
29:52
that stuff in the back of my head.
29:53
Yeah, I just need to get rid of all that and just go.
29:55
>> It seems to go away when I move toward it.
29:58
>> Yeah, it does go away.
30:02
>> I imagine it's all well and good saying good decisions beget good decisions.
30:08
You've got this infinite domino tumble that helps you to keep the momentum up.
30:14
And yes, it is your responsibility to deal with the repercussions of the decisions
30:20
that you've made,
30:20
including the string of bad ones for the last quite a long time
30:24
if that's the situation
30:25
that you're in.
30:26
But it's not particularly reassuring or comforting, I don't think,
30:30
to somebody who's in the
30:32
So what would you say to someone who's going through a bad month
30:36
or a string of bad months
30:37
and doesn't see any light at the end of the tunnel?
30:41
>> What are your options?
30:44
you know, like, okay, you're upside down financially.
30:47
You relationship went back went south.
30:52
You got whatever those things are.
30:54
Your credit card debt is up.
30:56
You you got fired from your job.
30:58
Okay, you're you're in a terrible situation.
31:01
What are your options?
31:04
What you have to do is well,
31:06
you kind of have to prioritize and execute, right?
31:08
Like, okay, I got all these bad things going on in my life. what
31:11
is my biggest problem right now?
31:12
And you got to say, okay, I got to start with solving that problem.
31:18
And you got to start to take take action.
31:21
You've got to take action and move forward.
31:24
And if you don't, the this the downward spiral doesn't end.
31:31
>> And if you allow it to continue to go down,
31:36
that's where it's going to end up.
31:37
And so you you just have to what are my options to abandon the
31:44
whole thing?
31:44
Like no, that's not the option.
31:46
That is not the option.
31:48
How do you deal with the tension of feeling
31:52
that other thing pull away from you,
31:54
right?
31:54
You know that you need to focus
31:56
and you know that by focusing on one thing,
31:57
another thing is going to start to drop away.
32:00
But the classic overachiever mindset is, well,
32:03
everything needs to be growing at all times.
32:05
So there's a an emotional pain at watching something stagnate
32:09
or watching something fall behind.
32:10
How do you try and navigate that?
32:12
>> You just have to figure out what the priority is
32:15
and and at certain times,
32:16
you know, certain things might be a higher priority right now than it is
32:20
at some other point
32:20
and something else picks up
32:22
and sometimes the family needs to be the priority,
32:24
sometimes the business, sometimes the other business,
32:26
sometimes the health. like you're just going to have to weigh those things out
32:29
and recognize that you can't do them all simultaneously at the same time all
32:35
the time.
32:35
It's just it's not going to work.
32:36
So, you got to figure out we're going to make some compromises.
32:38
We're going to make some trade-offs.
32:42
>> What do most people misunderstand about discipline equals freedom?
32:46
>> If you give up a little bit today, like you can't get it back.
32:53
Like if you skip a workout today,
32:55
there's no possible way to get that back.
32:59
When you let something go, it's gone.
33:02
Rome wasn't built in a day,
33:03
but Rome didn't fall apart on a day either.
33:05
>> It didn't fall apart because of one thing.
33:08
It falls apart just a little bit at a time.
33:10
>> Yeah.
33:10
Nobody gets fit overnight.
33:11
Nobody gets fat overnight either.
33:14
>> Exactly.
33:14
You can't submit.
33:16
You can't submit.
33:18
You have to You have to get in there and keep it going.
33:20
And I know the results of not doing the thing are are not good.
33:26
Yeah.
33:26
I I mean I enjoy doing these things.
33:30
I enjoy working out.
33:31
Do I enjoy working out every single day?
33:33
Nope.
33:34
And that's when it's like, oh yeah,
33:35
but I know the results of the long run.
33:37
I don't know.
33:38
I think it was pretty simple to understand.
33:40
>> I agree.
33:41
But I I it's with simplicity comes an awful lot of opportunity for people
33:46
to >> Yeah.
33:47
I I I guess there's always people that, you know,
33:50
as they're trying to fish for a contrarian thing to say,
33:55
which I think you kind of have to fish for it.
33:57
I think you have to work for it to get with that statement.
34:00
I I kind of get the sense
34:01
as well with that story about not wanting to go to the gym.
34:03
I do think that that's the difference between discipline and motivation.
34:07
Motivation.
34:08
I didn't want to do the thing.
34:10
Discipline.
34:11
I did the thing in spite of not wanting to do the thing.
34:14
Look, I've said many times, you can't count on motivation.
34:17
Like, it's not going to be there for you.
34:18
>> Or it may, but it may not be.
34:21
>> And when it comes along, >> if you wait for it to be there,
34:25
>> it's you might be waiting more than you should.
34:33
When we deployed to Iraq in 2006, we'd been fighting since 2003,
34:38
and we'd had very few casualties in the SEAL teams.
34:42
The amount of guys that had experienced their teammates killed in action was minuscule.
34:48
And so there was no preparation other than what I had taken away from
34:54
reading about combat for my whole life.
34:56
What I did was what I knew how to do, which was work.
34:59
And and that's literally what I told my guys was we've we've crossed a
35:03
line.
35:04
And there's no there's no possible way to replace
35:08
or describe or overcome the amount of just heartwrenching sadness
35:16
that you feel when you lose a teammate.
35:19
I didn't know what to do and I didn't know what to say.
35:24
>> First time, >> first time, second time, third time, >> irrelevant time.
35:29
What I did was, and I told my guys,
35:32
I don't know what to do.
35:34
I don't know what to tell you.
35:36
The only thing that I know to do is to go back to work.
35:40
And I do know this.
35:42
If Mark was here, he would want us to go back to work.
35:46
And so, we're going to lock and load our weapons,
35:48
and we're going to go do what we do.
35:52
In World War II, in World War I,
35:54
there would be days where thousands upon thousands were killed.
35:58
And so that offered me a small bit of perspective to think to myself
36:03
that human beings,
36:04
we can feel like we're special
36:06
and we can feel like no one's ever been through what I've been through
36:09
and the world is hard for me
36:11
and easier for everyone else.
36:13
Well, the reality is that's not true and we're not special.
36:17
And the things that people go through,
36:20
other people have gone through most likely much much worse and much more significant.
36:28
So that to me was a a it gave me at least some level
36:32
of perspective to realize
36:34
that other warriors had gone through this before.
36:38
This was my turn
36:39
and this is how I'm going to try
36:41
and handle it.
36:44
I've got that going on and and and I need to control it.
36:49
So when people start getting emotional when when guys get killed,
36:54
how do I get control over that?
36:55
Yeah, I absolutely have to control my own emotions because it's your guys.
37:02
And believe me, when you lose one of your guys,
37:04
you want to kill everyone.
37:07
And you know you can't and you know you shouldn't.
37:11
So you have to detach from your emotions.
37:14
You have to get control of them
37:15
and you have to make sure
37:16
that you lead your your men in the right direction
37:18
so they don't do something
37:20
that is not the right thing to do.
37:23
One of my answers for people when they say, "Hey,
37:25
how can I get better at detaching control my ocean emotions?"
37:28
I tell them to start training jiu-jitsu
37:29
because you're going to get tapped out in jiu-jitsu.
37:32
Your ego is going to get smacked around
37:35
so hard you're going to lose your mind
37:38
and what you and the the more the matter you get,
37:42
the more aggressive you are,
37:44
the more you're going to get beat down
37:45
and the worse it's going to be.
37:47
So, you have to learn to control your emotions.
37:49
No doubt about it.
37:50
And then what you have to do is you have to start practicing it
37:52
all the time.
37:53
You have to start paying attention to the to the the red flags
37:58
that go up when I start raising my voice at you.
38:01
I go, "Oh, that's that's your emotion.
38:02
Get mad."
38:03
And and for me, like the minute I feel some sort of anger,
38:08
some sort of jealousy, some sort of frustration, most of the time I go,
38:14
"Oh, you're getting mad.
38:16
That's your ego.
38:17
That's your That's you're getting emotional about this."
38:19
Take a step back and listen to what the other person is saying.
38:22
Take a step back and try and see it from their perspective.
38:26
Take a step back and try and understand what they're trying to say.
38:32
Because sometimes, you know,
38:33
if you're not a if you're not a very articulate person,
38:35
you're just making me mad.
38:37
It's only cuz I don't understand what you're trying to say.
38:40
Take a step back.
38:41
Let's talk through it.
38:42
So pay attention to, you know,
38:44
I always talk about
38:45
when you're sending an email to someone
38:46
and you're typing like this,
38:48
don't don't send that email.
38:49
That's not a good email to send.
38:50
That's an emotional email.
38:52
Wait, write it out.
38:53
Fine.
38:54
And then save it and read it later and you'll realize, oh yeah,
38:57
I was really mad about something or I was really frustrated.
39:00
So how do you do it?
39:02
You practice it.
39:03
You pay attention to your emotions and you get control over them.
39:11
Can you teach that?
39:12
That Let's go.
39:13
Let's We're going to jump back in the water.
39:15
Let's go.
39:16
>> I think that I think that's one of the few things
39:19
that you learn in basic SEAL training is to shrug your shoulders
39:24
and go forward.
39:26
What you learn to do is okay, I'm going to go forward.
39:29
There's no I can't get out of this.
39:32
I'm going to go forward.
39:32
I'm not going to quit.
39:33
So, I'm going to go forward.
39:34
Bring it on.
39:37
So if you lack the discipline to exercise and eat healthy,
39:45
you will end up being a slave to disease.
39:50
If you lack the discipline to work hard, save your money,
39:57
you will end up a slave to finances.
40:01
If you lack the discipline to manage your time correctly,
40:07
you will end up with no free time.
40:09
If you have self-discipline,
40:13
if you have the discipline to save your money
40:15
and work hard and invest your money properly,
40:18
if you have the discipline to manage your time correctly
40:22
and not waste a bunch of time,
40:24
if you have the discipline to exercise and eat healthy,
40:27
you will end up with freedom.
40:28
>> You've got to be aggressive to make things happen.
40:31
I mean, if you don't if you're not aggressive with things, they don't happen.
40:34
They don't move.
40:35
So, you're always learning and growing.
40:36
And I was always learning until the day I retired.
40:39
>> And people can actually confront the fact
40:40
that this is all
40:42
because of me and this is it hurts,
40:47
but is also unbelievably empowering because if these problems are because of me,
40:54
then I'm capable of fixing these problems.
40:59
So even though extreme ownership hurts and is painful,
41:03
it's also liberating because now you have control over your fate
41:07
and over your destiny.
41:09
And that is a glorious thing.
41:11
I'm not saying take your emotions out of the calculus,
41:15
but they have to be one component of your calculus, not the whole equation.
41:20
The equation has to include emotions, yes.
41:23
Logic, yes.
41:25
Future, yes. goals, yes.
41:29
Family, yes.
41:31
Work, yes.
41:32
Finances, yes.
41:33
All those things have to be in the calculus.
41:35
Emotions has to be a part of the that calculus.
41:38
You can't pull them out of there or they'll bite you.
41:40
But you can't make them the overwhelming denominator of everything
41:44
that you do or it's going to be problematic.
41:48
Extreme ownership is this went wrong, this failed, didn't accomplish this.
41:54
And it's not the fault of my boss.
41:57
It's not the fault of my girlfriend.
41:58
It's not the fault of my parents.
42:00
It's not the fault of the weather.
42:01
It's my fault.
42:03
And I'm going to take ownership of it and I'm going to fix it.
42:05
That's what extreme ownership is.
42:07
And this is a very difficult thing to do because it hurts.
42:12
Because when you look around at your life
42:15
and you look around at your job
42:17
and your financial situation
42:19
and your relationship and your physical health
42:21
and when you look at all those things
42:23
and all the problems
42:24
that you may have with those things
42:26
and you say the reason I have all those problems is
42:30
because of me.
42:32
That can hurt.
42:34
That can sting.
42:36
And a lot of times our ego rejects
42:38
that and makes excuses
42:41
and lies and then we don't have to change anything
42:44
and then nothing changes.
42:48
So again, I would love to be able to, you know,
42:53
give you this profound anchor that people need to have, but it's like, oh,
42:58
do do you want to do this or not?
43:00
Which is what I think a lot of it boils down to.
43:01
Do you actually want to do this or not?
43:04
Do you actually want to do this or not?
43:06
Cuz if you actually want to do it, what's going to stop you?
43:09
Nothing.
43:10
And if you don't really want to do it, what's going to stop you?
43:14
Just about anything that comes up.
43:16
Just about any obstacle that gets in your way becomes an excuse.
43:20
It becomes a reason.
43:21
It becomes a rationale for not proceeding down that path.
43:28
So there's a lot of people say like do the work.
43:29
Um, and in gym launch, and it's continued into our stuff today,
43:33
but do the boring work is what we call it.
43:35
And, uh, boring is what make you rich.
43:37
Boring, the boring activities.
43:39
It's the, it's the double-checking the emails.
43:41
It's writing the follow-up sequence that you really don't feel like writing.
43:44
And honestly, just getting it done will make you significantly more money than not
43:48
getting it done.
43:49
And so it's like it's it's Michael Phelps talks about this too with uh
43:53
with swimming like just laps after laps after like he doesn't even have the
43:57
variety of like different moves
43:58
or different like it's just laps just sheer volume of work
44:04
and um I call it the rocky cut scene
44:09
and almost every successful person
44:11
that I have ever encountered has gone through not a month
44:14
or a year but many years of doing work without reward where they have
44:22
to do things that other people find boring
44:25
and they have to sacrifice things
44:26
that everyone finds interesting
44:28
that most people want to do during
44:30
that entire season of their life.
44:31
And they basically sacrifice a season of other things
44:35
that they would prefer to do to do stuff
44:38
that they would not prefer to do
44:39
because of the one thing they want most.
44:42
And that's the Rocky cut scene.
44:45
And instead of lasting 5 minutes, it just usually lasts 5 or 10 years.
44:50
>> Even now, it's it's still something
44:52
that I struggle with realizing
44:53
that now isn't forever.
44:55
>> The thing that you're doing right now doesn't need to be forever.
44:58
It's not forever.
45:00
>> Yeah.
45:00
>> There's this huge time delay between
45:03
when we start behaving in a way
45:04
that a winner behaves
45:06
and when we start winning.
45:07
>> Mhm.
45:07
Mhm.
45:08
>> And the problem is that the bigger the mountain you're trying to climb,
45:12
the bigger the W you're trying to get,
45:14
typically the more delayed it is lag.
45:17
>> Yeah.
45:17
Between when you start behaving like a winner
45:19
and when you start being a winner.
45:23
And most people don't get the fast enough feedback loop to know
45:27
that they're on the right path
45:29
when they are taking these first steps in the right direction
45:32
because they have this really big goal,
45:35
but they forget that with
45:37
that really big goal comes the even longer delay
45:40
that it takes to get there
45:42
while still continuing to act with no feedback from society.
45:47
>> No positive reinforcement, no >> whatsoever.
45:49
And I think that's like
45:51
if I actually had to put a real like what's what's been what has
45:55
worked so well for me
45:56
and why the input over the output focus has been
45:59
so powerful is that I can extend the time horizon basically indefinitely
46:04
because the goal is me
46:06
and then the external goals occur.
46:10
So I think a lot of us have the the battle of the other
46:12
self that we're the the lesser version of oursel
46:16
that we're trying to kill every single day.
46:18
And so a lot of times we have this desire to point the blame
46:22
finger externally.
46:24
But wherever you point the finger of blame, power follows.
46:29
And so whoever I blame for the life I have is the person who
46:32
I give all the power over my existence,
46:34
over my circumstances.
46:36
And so it hurts.
46:38
But if you turn the finger inwards and you start saying, "Huh,
46:44
I don't like my life. the person
46:46
that I need to punish
46:47
or get back at is the real person who got me here,
46:51
which is me.
46:52
And so, you may be right
46:53
that other people did certain things
46:56
or you got dealt a bad hand.
46:58
It also doesn't matter
47:00
because the only thing
47:01
that you can control is obviously the actions
47:04
that you take.
47:05
And the only person who's in control of that is you.
47:09
The revenge porn is thinking about what the version of you who got you
47:16
here did and then acting in the exact opposite of
47:20
that as many times
47:21
as you possibly can
47:22
and the pain that you feel by rejecting the thing
47:25
that you used to do
47:26
that got you into this bad circumstance.
47:28
That's the real revenge.
47:31
We don't rise to the standards we have when others are watching.
47:34
We fall to the standards we have when no one is watching.
47:37
The only work that really matters is the work that no one sees.
47:41
It shows you who you really are rather than who you say you are.
47:45
>> There's this line
47:46
that I heard David Gogggins say on Rogan
47:50
and I can't remember who he's saying it to
47:51
or what he said in response to,
47:52
but he just said, "I'm David Gogggins, bitch."
47:58
And I remember him saying it
48:00
and I thought to myself like you want to be able to say
48:04
that in the mirror to yourself
48:08
and not laugh at yourself.
48:11
>> And the only way
48:12
that I can do
48:12
that is know that
48:14
when no one's watching,
48:15
I work harder than when they're watching.
48:19
And thinking about it like
48:21
that has given me this persistent
48:24
and everpresent scorecard or third party that's like no one's watching
48:31
which means now you have to work cuz otherwise you're full of
48:34
and so it's this continuous reinforcing cycle of the me
48:40
and other me holding the whip behind me to see how much I can
48:43
take but with each lash of the whip
48:47
that I take learning
48:49
that I can take it
48:50
and continue to trudge on.
48:52
And so as long as you keep going,
48:55
you bear witness to yourself of what you are capable of.
48:59
And I find that incredibly satisfying in the trenches of misery
49:05
when you have to go through it
49:07
because you're like,
49:07
>> you're not full of >> I'm still here.
49:09
>> It means that you're not full of >>
49:12
So I think what we're teasing at is authenticity.
49:15
And so a lot of people feel like imposters because what they think,
49:18
what they say, and what they do are completely different.
49:22
But from an operational perspective,
49:23
because that's how I like to define a lot of words,
49:25
which is what do I have to do to be that, right?
49:27
What do I have to do to be authentic?
49:29
And you can describe someone as authentic by saying,
49:33
how would you behave if there was no possibility of punishment?
49:37
And so if you could not be punished at all,
49:40
that behavior is who you are authentically.
49:43
And so in my opinion,
49:45
our degrees of freedom are predicated on how much to what extent we act
49:50
as though we could not be punished.
49:52
And so if what we want to do
49:54
and what we do have no possibility of punishment,
49:58
that is what we are when we are our true selves.
50:05
You like most of the pain
50:07
that people experience is purely in their own minds.
50:10
And so to your point,
50:11
I think there's an interesting one between like burnout versus hard.
50:15
And so like for me burnout is
50:17
when my I would define it
50:18
as my output per unit of time decreases.
50:21
So I can see
50:22
that that's measurable right now like I can say like number of pages
50:27
that I edit or the quality of the content
50:28
that I create.
50:29
Like my output per time like the team knows
50:31
when I like when I'm like 6 hours 7 hours into recording something they're
50:34
like I literally start like slumping. you know,
50:36
like like physically I just start like slumping
50:38
and I like my cadence isn't
50:39
as like I'm just not
50:40
as sharp,
50:41
right?
50:42
There's that versus emotional burnout,
50:46
which I think people mislabel
50:48
as burnout when really it's just like they don't know how to reframe reality.
50:53
And so what it really is is they got a comment on a post
50:56
that bugged them.
50:58
And like again, it's like pulling it from the shadows.
51:01
It's like, "No, this stuff doesn't It's like, hold on.
51:04
What's the one voice that actually is coming through?
51:06
What is the real thing?
51:07
Well, there is this comment.
51:08
Okay, great.
51:09
It's embarrassing to even have to say that, but when you say it,
51:12
then you admit it
51:12
and all of a sudden you put it in the light
51:14
and the shame kind of starts to evaporate
51:15
because then you can name it
51:16
and be like,
51:17
is this comment better than my bigger than my future?
51:19
Is this comment bigger than me?
51:21
And one of the things
51:22
that I um that has helped me was saying like what's true about this?
51:29
And the next one is like what
51:30
if we confront it
51:30
and say like what
51:31
if they're right now what
51:35
because a lot of I think a lot of effort gets put into trying
51:37
to deny deny reality right like there's this clip
51:40
that I shared uh from Tom Billy
51:41
and he was talking about how he gets made fun of for his ears
51:44
being big right and I think it's a really good clip cuz his point
51:48
that he was making he's like is
51:50
that it's true I do have big ears
51:53
and and so that's
51:56
if they're like you have no right to be making content.
52:01
Are they right?
52:02
Okay.
52:03
And I'm still going to do it anyways
52:06
because the thing is like I can still do the things
52:08
that create success and not deserve it
52:11
and still get it.
52:13
And that actually felt very powerful for me
52:15
because it was like I don't have to deserve to success.
52:17
I can still just do the stuff that gets it.
52:19
It's like you don't have to you don't have to deserve the girl
52:21
but you can still do the things
52:22
that get her.
52:24
And do you deserve it when you have her?
52:25
I don't know.
52:26
Who knows?
52:26
I hate the word deserve to begin with, right?
52:30
>> Yes.
52:30
>> But like that has been super powerful for me,
52:32
which is like what if they're right?
52:34
And because a lot of people just trying to they spend
52:37
so much effort trying to fight the fact
52:39
that the comments might be right.
52:42
This might have been aing terrible thumbnail.
52:44
You know what?
52:44
This might have been a boring video.
52:46
This this post might have been regurgitated content.
52:48
This post might have been inspired too closely by someone else's post.
52:52
Right?
52:53
What if they're right?
52:55
And >> yeah, >> does it make me a piece of what if it does?
52:59
And >> being an is a weak person's idea of strength.
53:04
Complaining is their connection.
53:06
Never let yourself be held back by other people's fears.
53:09
People criticize what they are afraid to do themselves
53:11
because bold action reminds them of their own inaction.
53:15
If you're afraid to be criticized,
53:17
why do you care about the opinions of those who are too timid to
53:20
do it themselves?
53:22
If you are the criticizer,
53:23
does tearing down someone who has the courage you lack make you better?
53:29
>> People criticize because it helps them justify the risks they chose not to
53:32
take in the hopes
53:35
that it'll dissuade you from doing it
53:37
so that you can be in the exact same position
53:38
as them,
53:39
which then justifies that they made the right call.
53:41
And so when I think about how hard I want to work,
53:45
the interesting thing about
53:46
that is that the only person who can judge you on your success is
53:48
you because you're the only one who knows how much left in the tank
53:51
you really had.
53:53
And the better you get and you can resonate with this,
53:56
you start winning exteriorly.
53:58
And that's when people are like, it felt so empty.
54:01
It's because they didn't actually work as hard as they could have.
54:03
They just worked hard enough to beat everyone else.
54:06
But that discrepancy between how hard you could have worked to hard to work
54:10
your hardest versus what was required in order to win.
54:14
To me, that's the opportunity
54:15
that shifting towards the work being the goal unlocks for you.
54:19
And I work harder now than I did when I was poor.
54:22
And I think it's
54:23
because I've learned to enjoy it. the result
54:30
which we know there isn't really one
54:32
and we cannot imitate someone else's exact result.
54:36
We're going to have our own thing way to get there.
54:38
Um the the approach is all I think that's that's that's the best our
54:45
life can get is one constant approach
54:47
or and with many different approaches
54:49
but knowing we never there is no result.
54:52
H you know the story of Seisphus man gets cursed I think he was
54:57
a demigod gets cursed to roll a boulder up a hill it's heavy heavy
55:01
boulder he rolls it uphill
55:02
and just as he gets to the very top he stumbles
55:06
and it falls down
55:07
and crushes him and he needs to walk back to the bottom turn around
55:11
pick it back up
55:11
and Albeamu's famous line is we must imagine Cisphus happy
55:16
that this pointless pursuit >> uh
55:19
that he finds joy in the process of doing
55:24
So I grew up only knowing sort of the courage of the persistence.
55:28
Be resilient, endure, get up, dust yourself off, go.
55:32
The problem with that,
55:33
the Achilles heel with
55:34
that is if you get up
55:35
and have the courage to keep on going every time
55:39
and get up and dust yourself off,
55:41
you make the same mistakes each time around cuz you never backed up to
55:45
have what I've now learned
55:46
and still learning is the courage to go,
55:48
"No, I'm going to let some people pass me in the race right now
55:50
cuz I'm going to look at why I keep stepping in
55:52
that damn same pothole
55:53
and twisting my ankle.
55:54
The same spot. why I keep failing
55:58
when I try to get
55:59
that next spot in this relationship
56:01
or failing in this place to get this product of my craft to the
56:05
next.
56:06
>> Would that be uh the relinquishing of the romcom era in in a
56:09
a small part for you?
56:11
>> Small part?
56:12
Yeah.
56:14
>> Yeah, it was definitely courageous.
56:15
I did I did honestly think I'd written myself a one-way ticket out of
56:20
Hollywood. people close to me.
56:25
Basically almost everybody besides my wife was like, "What is your major malfunction,
56:32
little brother?
56:34
You got it made.
56:36
Why Why are you throwing a jack knife in this?
56:40
You're tripping yourself running downhill, man.
56:42
You You You did it."
56:44
And I had my wife
56:47
and myself to remind myself of
56:50
that 4:00 a.m. clarity
56:52
that I had in tears
56:54
when I was like,
56:55
"No, I'm I'm I'm I'm rolling the dice.
56:58
I'm sticking with it."
57:00
Yeah, man.
57:01
I did think I wrote myself a ticket out of Hollywood.
57:03
I did look at other vocations, become a teacher, a wildlife guide.
57:08
I serious seriously look at those things.
57:12
But over time, and it was about 20 months, it was gone long enough.
57:15
It found anonymity enough.
57:16
Was not in your living room in a theater in a romcom.
57:18
You didn't seem on a beach shirtless.
57:20
Where is he?
57:22
Turning down the $14.5 million offer.
57:25
Made people go, "Oh what's he up to?"
57:28
You don't just you don't just step out of Hollywood
57:30
and unless you get you turn
57:31
that down cuz you got a plan.
57:33
You got somewhere you want to go.
57:34
And I think that made me more attractive as a new novel idea.
57:39
But that was yeah
57:40
that risk took a I think it's fair to say
57:42
that took a fair amount of courage from me.
57:47
>> We often see resistance
57:48
as a form of failure
57:49
and something that we should endeavor to avoid.
57:52
You think about the avoidance of like people building families
57:54
or even many people consider
57:56
that we're living in a bit of a comfort crisis.
57:58
This is slightly a different sort of analogy
58:00
but most of the diseases
58:01
that we have today whether they're diseases of I don't know the mind like
58:06
you know people feeling lonely
58:07
and isolated or physical diseases 80% of Americans getting back pain
58:10
but no one in the had a tribe in Africa getting back pain they're
58:13
all a consequence of us continually choosing comfort >> y
58:16
which is a short-term friend
58:17
but long-term enemy and the resistance I think is um is something increasingly we
58:22
can choose opt out of >> oh
58:25
and and and we we've outconvenienced oursel What's AI going to do to us?
58:31
Talk about convenience.
58:33
How much, and I want to keep hearing studies.
58:34
I wonder if you have an opinion on this.
58:36
How much of you coming up with an idea
58:41
and then writing and rewriting it,
58:44
thinking about it.
58:44
No, no, no, no.
58:45
That's not ex Oh, no.
58:46
This is what I really mean.
58:47
How to get it done.
58:48
How much of that is really valuable to get it beyond just an intellectual
58:52
idea?
58:53
more valuable than just going ah there it is cuz what comes out of
58:59
it incredibly impressive hunch is
59:03
that yeah we can use it for like signpost to help us oh that's
59:07
good or that will help thank you for helping me organize
59:09
but there's a value to us going through the sweat equity of learning something
59:14
>> but I mean yeah I mean for through history people like Richard Fryman
59:18
the physicist has said the best way to learn something is to learn it
59:22
and and then to go through the pain of writing it,
59:24
condensing it down to a simple truth like you do
59:27
so often in your new book poems
59:29
and prayers and then sharing it with the world
59:32
and then getting the feedback
59:33
and if if the world understood it like you meant it like
59:35
that poem you just shared you you you understand it that's evidence
59:38
that you get it >> right >>
59:40
so I think AI is going to be great for me saying something to
59:43
you but not learning something myself
59:45
and I think if you know
59:46
if you want to defend creativity
59:47
and innovation and the ability to think you actually have a huge opportunity
59:53
which is to go left
59:53
when everyone's going right.
59:55
>> Well, now we're going into I have that I got that thing there.
59:57
I said what what's better?
59:59
Take eight.
60:00
Take eight eight big risk in life.
60:03
Sin once, miss the mark once, but get seven, achieve seven.
60:06
Seven out of eight or take a 100 risk >> and achieve eight of them.
60:12
My hunch is that if there's a God,
60:15
he's saying go for the hundred
60:16
and get eight >> rather than eight
60:18
and get seven.
60:18
Mhm.
60:19
>> Is you're not take
60:20
if you're not taking enough risk to sin
60:23
or miss the mark,
60:24
which is what sin means to fail.
60:28
>> Mhm.
60:28
>> What are you doing?
60:29
Don't come back with even money.
60:30
Come back with the safe bets,
60:32
which that can become a sort of recessive peace, namaste.
60:38
No, it's a it's a it's almost a it's I don't think it's what
60:41
the mystics meant when they were like be disattached.
60:44
Mhm.
60:45
Think of it mean go embrace
60:46
but for highs and lows
60:48
and pains and pleasures.
60:50
Understand that those outward things are not the things to be attached to for
60:54
your own identity.
60:55
It's got to be inward first.
60:57
Enjoy those.
60:58
Partake, but don't become attached to those for your measure without complacency.
61:04
Trust that time is on your side.
61:06
>> What do you mean that?
61:07
>> Yeah, man.
61:09
Don't get ahead or behind it.
61:10
And then I can get in a rush
61:12
and I haven't found look
61:15
and I know how to hustle
61:16
and let's go.
61:17
The clock's ticking.
61:18
We're all behind.
61:19
All hands on deck.
61:20
We got to bust ass.
61:21
No time for pause.
61:22
There's no sleep, no nothing.
61:23
Get the caffeine out.
61:24
Let's go.
61:25
>> Mhm.
61:25
>> Sometimes we got to do that.
61:26
But that is usually
61:27
because an unforeseen circumstance has happened
61:30
that there's a crisis we got to deal with
61:31
or we've uh procrastinated
61:34
and I put myself in
61:35
that position where I got we got to cram.
61:37
But it's not those two circumstances.
61:41
We got to watch oursel getting ahead of time and it's on your side.
61:47
It's a little what I mean about the living longer and living more quality.
61:50
Time's on our side
61:52
and we're forced to think
61:54
and feel especially today with how fast things move.
61:58
That more productivity, faster pace, more information, faster pace, it's better.
62:02
We're we're ahead of we're ahead of of time a lot.
62:07
It's the John Wooden, a great basketball coach for UCLA.
62:10
Be quick, but don't be in a hurry.
62:12
That was his note to the his basketball players.
62:15
Like, you can be quick, but don't be in a hurry.
62:17
You will miss things.
62:18
You know, it's it's it's it's the Lego set, man.
62:22
And you sit there and you get in a rush.
62:23
You don't read the directions.
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You get to the end and you've got 12 pieces left and you're like,
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Because you got in a hurry. you got ahead of time instead of just
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that feeling of I've checked out what I need to do
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and it's all adding up
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and this thing's built right
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and the foundation's right
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and boom there's the last piece it fits voila was with time's on our
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side it's not an enemy the end death is not the enemy I do
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believe that part of you know not in a rush to get there
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and we can stave it we want to stave it off sometimes
62:53
and that it can be a screaming fight
62:56
and partially denial can help us get there.
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I understand that.
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But still, it's on her side.
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It's going to happen.
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And since it's going to happen and there's that's non-negotiable.
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Might as well go, well,
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I'm not going to rush to try
63:12
and make more of it than there is.
63:14
I want to try
63:15
and spend the time I got
63:17
as well as I can to produce succeed,
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achieve all whatever those things are,
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but also at a pace
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that I'm me that I
63:28
that I that that I I like I like the dance to.
63:30
I I I like the give and the take.
63:32
I like the reverb.
63:32
I like the the the the cause
63:35
and effect of how things are happening at this pace.
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Like start now.
63:39
That doesn't mean time's on my side.
63:41
Yeah, dude.
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Inshalah.
63:43
When it happens, it'll happen.
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No.
63:46
Like, wake up.
63:49
The clock's ticking.
63:51
It's on your side now.
63:52
Just move with it.
63:53
Dance with it.
63:54
Put some soul with the the facts.
63:59
I've realized that it's scary
64:02
when you find a thing
64:02
that you're going to fully commit yourself to the pursuit of,
64:05
especially if it's excellence that you're going after,
64:07
because there's no more room for your inadequacies to hide.
64:11
There's no more ejector seat.
64:12
Right?
64:13
I've committed to this.
64:14
>> Commit to at least one thing >>
64:15
as hard as you can
64:16
and see what happens.
64:18
>> I had a rule with my clients because, you know, you might say, "Well,
64:21
I've gone halfway down this path and I found out it's wrong."
64:24
Well, how do you distinguish that from just giving up?
64:27
Well, that's a really hard question, right?
64:28
It's it's a moral hazard cuz it's inappropriate to continue in a direction you
64:33
now realize to be wrong,
64:35
but it's also inappropriate to give up and use that rationalization as an excuse.
64:41
And how do you distinguish?
64:42
>> Especially seeing as we're not transparent to ourselves.
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>> Well, right.
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Exactly.
64:45
So that is genuinely a moral hazard.
64:48
You can change course
64:49
as long as the next thing you do is equally
64:51
or more difficult cuz that's a check against just giving up.
64:57
So you want to discipline yourself
65:00
so you can get yourself organized
65:01
so that you can go in a particular direction
65:03
so that when you find the right direction,
65:05
you can really go in that direction.
65:06
And that does require an apprenticeship of sorts.
65:10
And it it might not matter in some sense exactly what the apprenticeship is
65:15
as long as it is rigorous,
65:19
right?
65:19
And so that's sort of a bridge between moral relativism and moral absolutism.
65:25
There's lots of games you can play.
65:27
It's not that obvious a priority which is the best game.
65:31
So that's kind of a morally relative stance.
65:33
There's multiple playable games.
65:38
But then the absolute is, yeah, but you have to play one of them.
65:41
You have to learn to play one of them.
65:43
You have to become an expert at at least one of them.
65:45
And then that's not a relative proposition.
65:49
And I I believe that's true.
65:50
I that seems to me to be the case.
65:53
So you want to commit to something.
65:55
And then you you have
65:56
when you commit to something you require yourself to bring all of your disperate
66:05
components moving in a single direction,
66:07
united in a single direction.
66:08
So it's a unifying it's a unifying act
66:11
and then once having been unified well
66:15
then you can bring
66:15
that unity to bear on a variety of different tasks
66:19
but you have to bring it together first.
66:22
So, and that that makes sense developmentally.
66:25
You see children start out
66:27
as a disperate bundle of motivations
66:29
and emotions sort of waring with one another
66:32
and then they can integrate
66:33
that into single games
66:34
that they can play with themselves
66:36
and then they integrate
66:37
that with games they start to play with other people.
66:40
And all of that is integration.
66:42
It's not subjugation.
66:44
It's not repression.
66:45
Not if it's a good game, it's integration.
66:48
You want to get integrated
66:49
because then you have all the horses
66:52
that are pulling your chariot pulling in the same direction
66:55
and you're much more likely to get to where you want to go
66:57
then and also much more likely to specify a good place to go.
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>> Do you think
67:03
that there's a usefulness in having a a nemesis to motivate you?
67:07
I try to avoid making enemies of people
67:09
or groups or ideas
67:11
or >> don't make unnecessary enemies.
67:13
>> But there is an extra level of fire
67:16
that gets lit underneath you
67:18
when you're going up against someone.
67:19
And I miss it sometimes.
67:21
There's a price that you pay for peace.
67:24
>> Yeah.
67:24
Well, then you just have to look at yourself harder
67:26
and find the nemesis cuz it's there all the time,
67:30
right?
67:30
I mean, there's always parts of yourself that you can overcome.
67:33
Now, if you need something to grapple with, and you probably do,
67:37
you can find that.
67:38
You just look inside, you'll find something to grapple with, you know, inadequacy, weakness,
67:45
susceptibility to temptation, narcissism, pride, envy, revenge, resentment, frustration, lack of faith,
67:53
all of that.
67:54
That that'll keep you occupied if you really grapple with it.
67:56
And yeah, I mean, that's an ancient theological question.
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You know, what's up with the devil?
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Why?
68:03
Why is why does the possibility of evil exist?
68:06
Why is there a eternal adversary?
68:09
Why would God God construct a reality where an adversary exists?
68:12
And maybe it's because all things considered,
68:14
a world with an adversary is a better world.
68:16
Just like a garden with a snake in it is a better garden.
68:19
These things aren't easy to understand.
68:22
No, no snake, no necessity to contend with snakes.
68:28
So why be awake at all?
68:31
No adversary, no challenge.
68:33
Why be challenged?
68:34
Because maybe you're better for the challenge.
68:37
And maybe that's the challenge to see
68:39
if you can be better for the challenge.
68:41
>> But that should be internal.
68:42
>> Well, fundamentally, well, if it isn't,
68:44
you'll find it externally cuz you'll demonize someone to turn them into Satan
68:48
so that you can find an adversary.
68:49
And then that's very unfortunate for you and for them.
68:53
>> It's just not as big a battle.
68:54
It's like you you battle with someone external who's malevolent, let's say,
68:59
or you think they are.
69:00
And usually you've got that mostly wrong, but not always.
69:03
But if the battle is inside,
69:05
which is where it's supposed to be most fundamentally, then well,
69:11
then it's the ultimate.
69:12
It is the ultimate challenge.
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>> And that's the infinite game, >> the external one.
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>> Battle between good and evil on a playing field of chaos and order.
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It's the eternal game.
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