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I Entered America's Most Feared Satanic Cult
I Entered America's Most Feared Satanic Cult
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There are more than 700,000
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people in America who identify as Satanists.
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>> Many of its members belong to the Satanic Temple, a real place in Massachusetts
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who turned the devil into the ultimate symbol of resistance.
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But what do Satanists actually believe in?
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Is it a religion, an anti-culture
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movement, or maybe even a cult?
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>> The world is ours.
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>> I'm about to head straight into the belly of the beast, the Satanic Temple.
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And to get access,
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I'm meeting up with Sandor,
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who identifies as a real satanic >> How are you? Good. How are you?
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Good >> to meet you. You, too.
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>> Do you mind showing me your house?
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>> Yeah, let's do it. >> Okay, cool.
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>> So, right now we're in the living room.
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Try to do like this kind of
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monochrom burgundy and black situation. >> Looks wonderful.
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So Anton Ley, to my knowledge, he is like the founder of the Satanic Church.
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>> Yeah, he is founder of the Church of Satan.
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It was founded in 1966
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in San Francisco, California.
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The Satanic Bible was published in 1969.
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And that is basically the book that
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everyone reads as becoming a a baby Satanist.
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And it lays the ground lines for Satanism.
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Basically, what Satanism is self-empowerment.
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Yes, it's called Satan
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because Satan represents carnal desire.
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He He represents the rebel. We embrace sexuality. We embrace sensuality.
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We also embrace humanism. We have empathy.
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We're very sensitive people.
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But also, if you
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smite me on one cheek, I'll smash you on the other.
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I think that the word Satan scares people.
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When we say hell Satan,
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we say hell thyself. >> HAIL SATAN. >> HAIL SATAN. >> XANDOR.
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That's Anton's middle name.
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>> Is that where you get your name from?
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>> When I started doing fetish modeling,
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I had to come up with a pseudonym.
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So, I came up with Xandor.
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>> What's your relationship to him?
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>> I was married to his grandson, Stanton.
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But I was a Satanist
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and Xandor before I met his grandson.
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>> This is my bedroom. Welcome.
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I bid you So, this is my broom.
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This is really special to me.
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My friend, my best friend Christine, hi Christine.
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She makes these uh with her witch co-op.
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It's symbolic to me.
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It's like from nature.
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It's made from a witch for a witch.
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I think that's special.
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Too delicate to fly.
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>> And then out the window, my front yard is a graveyard.
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The little old lady that is my landlord
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was like, "You know, I do have to be honest.
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you know, there's a graveyard
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up front in the front yard and it's been turning some people off and
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I was like on the phone going
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I've always loved cemeteries.
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Everywhere I go, I will always visit a cemetery.
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I don't know, it's just kind of relaxing.
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I like to look at
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people's last names, look at the stories on their tombstones,
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kind of celebrate who they were, even though I didn't know them.
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I've tried to look some of these people up, but I haven't had any luck.
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I do research people on grave
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in graveyards and tombstones all the time.
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>> You told me you haven't cursed someone in a long time, and and like
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the thought of you cursing someone is really interesting to me.
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How do you curse people and I would not want to be the one
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that is being cursed?
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Sometimes curses can be in the form of rituals,
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but sometimes it could be a form of just manifesting.
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I like to call it manifesttoring,
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but I also do compassion rituals.
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I do those most of the time. >> That's nice. Yeah.
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>> What does that look like?
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>> A lot of people are familiar with Christianity, right?
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If you're a Christian and you pray for someone
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and you know, you're putting that energy towards them and they get better, you're
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like, "Oh, yay, Jesus."
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Same kind of thing.
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You know, I'm doing my compassion ritual.
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What is my intent?
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What kind of energy do I want to bring to that person?
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What kind of wealth
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do I want to bring to them?
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And I put that out into the atmosphere.
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I put that in my energy towards them.
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>> It's been very interesting to learn about Sandor and her beliefs.
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But now she's going to take me to downtown Beverly to teach me more
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about the history of witchcraft in Massachusetts.
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Has anybody ever asked you
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to put them in touch with the devil?
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>> All the time online.
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I can't do that.
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You know, like that's not the brand of Satanism
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that I am pedalling.
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You know, >> there's a church right here and there's a church right there and
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there's a church right there.
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We are in a land of
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>> We are >> all these churches around us like they believe that the devil is
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like sin and >> I've had friends
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that didn't realize that I was a Satanist
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cuz like it's not something I just say, "Hey, I'm Xandor. I'm a Satanist."
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you know, and they have found out eventually
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and just not been my friend,
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>> And it's like, well, I'm a good person.
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Why wouldn't you be my friend just because of what I believe in?
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You believed in Christianity
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and I was fine with it, but that's life.
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You know, maybe they're not my friend anyway.
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Oh, I love this.
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And I love how they have the stories.
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>> Here lies the body of
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Reverend and Joel >> This is John Hill.
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This is a guy that
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was with the the witch trial guy.
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We just randomly >> No way. >> Yes.
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That is crazy that we just I I haven't seen this yet and I've
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been wanting to come here.
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>> We just randomly pulled up to a random graveyard and we found >> Yeah.
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His wife was accused of witchcraft.
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He persecuted the witches
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and he was the one that retracted
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his statement saying, "This was hysteria.
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We shouldn't have believed these kids. This is wrong."
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But only when this happened to him. >> That's bizarre.
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>> Isn't that a crazy story?
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>> That's the first grave we went to
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was >> I was like, "Look at this."
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>> Like 100 gravestones here. >> Wow.
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Back in 1692 in colonial Massachusetts,
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hundreds of women were accused of being witches.
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Neighbors turned on each other.
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Fear spread like wildfire.
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And by the end, 20 people were hanged,
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crushed, or left to die in prison.
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It remains one of the most infamous moral panics in American history.
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To learn more, we're meeting up with one of Sindor's
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friends, a Satanist named Adam.
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>> Tabitha, the woman that was
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brought here by the owner of this house,
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and you know, the two kids had accused her of being a witch.
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This is where it all
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>> You're a satanic witch.
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What are the other kinds of witches?
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>> There are thousands of different types of witches.
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There are white witches,
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gray magic, black magic, right?
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Those are your three kind of basis of magic.
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>> And like anyone can claim themselves as a satanic witch.
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Like how do you >> I think anybody
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can say that they're a witch, right?
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I've put in the work to be a witch.
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First of all, you know, I feel like I was born a witch.
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I will die a witch.
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At 13, I started reading about like
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occultism and things like that and started doing little rituals and building that.
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And throughout my lifetime,
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you know, I use practical
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magic on a daily basis.
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I use for everything in my life.
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>> How do you feel in here?
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>> I feel really great.
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It feels really powerful hearing what Xandora
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has just said because she's accurate right on the point about
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witchcraft and Satanism is that it's really what works for you
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>> and how it works to help other people in the process.
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Satanism isn't about murdering things, hurting people.
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It's >> I'm going to cut you off.
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It's a misconception that people think it's all about death and drinking blood and killing people.
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Like that's that's what people think
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and you must put that's what Hollywood does.
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And you must struggle
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if you come if you go somewhere random and you're alone and you're trying
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to explain this to someone.
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It is >> they they will almost always
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like the you're joking or >> legacy media likes to to play this part where
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it's a theatrical thing where oh there's devil worshippers.
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Let's go follow that
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and let's hype it up so it looks like they're
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terrible people that are going to do this but they're really behind
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uh something that is so positive
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and has nothing to do >> What is the core belief?
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Is it almost like anti-socciety belief?
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Is it anti- re-religion? Like what?
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>> Satanism is a par
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religion, which means it's an alternative to religion.
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There's like a lifestyle Satanist, right?
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That believes in the core basis of Satanism.
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A lot of people call it a religion because it's the church of Satan, the satanic temple.
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So, it's been there for me every day of my life.
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So, to me, I would consider
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>> prayers like in Judaism, we light the candles for Shabbat.
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Is there something like that in Satan?
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Oh, we have rituals for sure.
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Uh we have three major types of rituals in Leva and Satanism.
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Lust, compassion, and destruction.
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You'll see these like very theatrical
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themes, but the reason that they're theatrical
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is because for a curse
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or a compassion ritual
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to work, everybody has to be on the same energy level.
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And adding that part of theatricalness
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to it makes the energy of that ritual higher.
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It makes it stronger.
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Yes, you can do a ritual
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without lighting a candle.
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And that's more of a manifestation, right?
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>> Before coming to Massachusetts,
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I had no idea what Satanism was about.
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But with Sandor as my guide, I now understand that most Satanists
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are atheists, which means they don't believe in anything supernatural.
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They're more like artists or activists than they are devil worshippers.
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I can't wait to meet real believers at the Satanic Temple.
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But first, we can't leave without visiting the famous graveyard.
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to meet more >> So, this where we're taking you right now is the most
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haunted cemetery in >> Yes. This where Mr.
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Guiles was a uh victim
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of the Salem witchcraft hysteria.
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Was crushed to death.
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>> So, when you say haunted,
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like do you think it's haunted?
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Like, do you feel something different in here?
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This is what people say because
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back then, you know, they crushed him to death.
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15% of the people that are buried here were crushed to death.
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>> So, you know, a lot of people, myself included, are very scared of death
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and we don't like to think about it.
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What does death mean to you?
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>> In Satanism, the reason
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we celebrate ourselves is because
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this is the only life you got.
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When you die, you're dead.
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There's no uh heaven glory bright and no
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hell where sinners roast, right?
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Basically, make the best of your life.
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If you're going to be an apologize.
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Be a hedonist with
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>> What does hedenist mean?
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>> If you want to have sexual freedom,
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if you want to party on the weekends,
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you want to be a weekend warrior, you go do that.
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But get to your actual life, too,
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>> You're personally not scared of death. You embrace death.
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I've had a lot of my friends die. My ex-husband's dead.
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So, you know, it took me a while to process all these deaths
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because they happened all so suddenly, right?
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>> And that's it for me, you know, like I'll never see those people again.
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To me, that is the last
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that I will ever >> from those people.
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And that's I think what makes me the saddest.
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>> Yeah, that is sad >> because
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life is for the living.
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Depends on what you believe in where you're gonna go.
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But I think that
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we go in the ground or we get spread into the air or into the sea.
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>> So Satanists in general don't believe in heaven or hell. >> Absolutely not.
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We don't believe in Satan.
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Satan is a metaphor.
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>> So what So why is it called Satanism? It's confusing. >> It really is. Right.
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It's it's a double-edged sword.
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Satan represents personal freedom.
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>> That's what you believe in. >> Yes.
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People say, "Oh, it's a religion or it's a philosophy."
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You you could say it's a little bit of both.
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But what Satanism gives you is that freedom to be yourself.
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Like yes, there's some guidelines
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to Satanism, but you can be you.
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>> I don't believe in the actual devil at all.
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I've been actually close to death many times where
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I've had 30 intubated surgeries, several scars. >> 30? Yeah.
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My whole leg is completely just messed up. Yeah. I mean, >> damn.
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Sorry to hear that.
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>> It's just I mean I had my entire leg taken out.
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I was hit by a car when I was
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>> 20 years old and I mean
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had 33 four rods put in cuz one of them snapped and >> I'm sorry. >> And he's strong.
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He's stronger than anyone I've ever met.
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>> On to Christianity at that time, but I decided to stay with No, you are with >> Wow.
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I mean, I would have never known. You're walking fine. You're >> Yeah.
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I people coming over trying to preach to me in the hospital
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tell me that, you know, God really was on your side.
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That's why you survived this
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>> And you're thinking like, no.
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>> I'm like, um, I I really want to get the out of here. >> Yeah. Science saved you.
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Science saved >> Do you say to them like you just keep it in your
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head like about God?
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You're just >> I listen to them and I listen to why they believe in
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God and why it helps them guide themselves
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through personal >> The devil, Satan, like you go to hell, but you guys don't believe in that. So, what's this?
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What's going on here?
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>> I think hell is on earth.
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Like hell is what you make of it, right?
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Like if you're having a shitty time,
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I consider that to be hell. Yeah.
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>> If you're here and you're having a great time,
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that's your heaven, right?
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>> We're in downtown Salem
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and it's really cool.
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I really feel like I'm in Boston because of the brick buildings.
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And every sign I'm seeing is literally
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when she told you she's a satanic witch. What?
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Like you said, I love that.
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>> There's a huge misconception
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about Satanists and the Satanic
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Temple and what they have to offer.
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And I think Satanists
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and people that care about the Satanic Temple and support it just care about supporting other people.
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Honestly, my wife and I, we moved here
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um like 2 years ago and immediately noticed a huge community shift here.
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There's a huge sense of community, a big sense of
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care for one another.
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Everyone talks to each other. Everyone's really welcoming.
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Um, and that was one of the very first I mean you noticed that
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at the grocery store here.
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>> I want you to meet my friend. >> Hi, I'm Dora. You can panic witch.
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>> Oh, we love that.
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>> Why do you love that?
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>> I was born here and I love I love everything witches and stuff. >> Really? It's so cool. >> That's so cute. >> How about y'all?
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How y'all feel about
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>> I think it's cool.
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Like all the history, >> It's really cool.
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>> I mean, I believe
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like strongly with, you know, witchcraft
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and like the crystals and like the tarot cards and all that.
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I grew up like that with my mom and stuff.
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So, >> I have a witch natural witch vibe in
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>> Thank you so much.
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>> Have a good day.
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>> Is your family supportive of you and your beliefs?
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>> They have never said to me about my beliefs.
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They're really cool with it.
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I don't have a very good relationship
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with my mom, but when I did, she was very supportive.
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And I talk to my dad sometimes.
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I'll tell him about it, but he might not see it.
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He has gotten the brunt of being my father
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and me being an erotica model.
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Um, one time I was in >> You were.
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>> Now, my my dad doesn't order Playboys
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ever again >> cuz he saw you.
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>> Do you enjoy performing on stage? >> I love performing. That's my ritual.
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Like that is the ultimate ritual.
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That's what gets you going.
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But as soon as I step on the stage
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and I see the lights come on
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and the curtain >> I love that >> spread.
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I go to a different place.
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>> What do you think about blood sucking?
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>> I don't suck people's blood.
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That sounds really dangerous,
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but if you're into it, hey, and the other person is consenting,
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I don't have a problem with it.
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As long as there's consent,
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you can do whatever the hell you want.
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If you agree to something that's consensual, >> agree.
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I agree to that. >> Consensual is sexy. Consent is sexy.
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>> Consent is very sexy.
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>> Behind me is the Satanic Temple.
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And what's kind of crazy is it's located inside of a neighborhood.
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There's literally houses like everywhere around us.
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What is it like to live next to the Satanic Temple? >> They're good neighbors.
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They don't bring any issues to our area.
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It's the fanatics that come and are disruptive,
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but they've been fantastic neighbors. They're not Satanist. That's the thing. >> Tell me more. I'm interested. What do you mean? >> They're not Satanists.
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They They believe in equality for everyone. >> They do.
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>> Everyone equal equal ground for
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>> So, who's a Satanist? >> No one.
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>> The bottom line is the Satanic Temple is named as such
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to be shocking, to get the known,
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to make people react.
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They're all about rights for all.
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You know, whenever they
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some state wants to put the
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ten commandments in school, the satanic temple is right there going, "Wait a minute.
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No, no, we're all the same.
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That means you have to put a boss." >> You're right.
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>> So, you think it's all kind of for show
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>> I think it is the name.
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The name, not the movement.
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I think they're very sincere about having equal freedoms
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and religions throughout the country.
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But yeah, the name it's shock value.
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some of the people who want to look at it as something different in
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other parts of the country. It's unfortunate.
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>> It's something easy to latch on to. >> It is.
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It's an easy thing to do >> as an outsider.
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Like, it's it's interesting.
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Why do we watch scary movies?
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Why do we watch serial killers?
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>> It's refreshing to meet the normal residents of Salem and see what they think of Satanism.
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But now's the moment I've been waiting for.
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We are about to step inside the actual satanic temple.
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It's strictly forbidden to take photos or videos here.
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So, we're lucky that Sora got us permission.
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Here we are with modern Satanism
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with the Satanic Temple.
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Want to come on in? >> Let's go inside. >> Let's go.
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They have seasonal artists
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come here and they curate
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these beautiful art pieces.
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And then you have sigual work, right?
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So like sigil work is really important to ritualist
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Satanists and some people have their own sigils.
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Some people go off of
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sigils like the baff.
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So basically this sigil that I have is called the satanic
20:06
power symbol and it was Anton Lave's personal symbol.
20:10
So it's a inverted star with a lightning bolt in it and that lightning
20:15
bolt like goes downwards
20:17
because it grounds you as a satanist.
20:19
They all mean something different to everyone. So yeah.
20:23
>> Wait, so is this more of an art museum or a temple?
20:25
>> Right now it's the daytime so they got to make money.
20:28
Honey, when they turn the lights down
20:30
that's when the magic happens.
20:32
And speaking of the magic,
20:33
>> this is the baffomet right here.
20:36
Uh, designed by Mark
20:37
Porter in Florida of all places.
20:40
We have some people that had donated.
20:41
If you come look on the back in the secret spot that nobody looks at.
20:45
>> So basically the Baffomet
20:47
originally was created by
20:51
a occultist called Leopus Levy.
20:54
He was the first person to draw the Baffomet.
20:56
Not with the little children.
20:58
That's added on by the satanic temple.
21:00
But Baffomet was basically trans, right?
21:02
It had this male
21:03
body of a goat,
21:06
but he also has boobies.
21:08
>> And this one doesn't have boobies. No.
21:10
>> To me, the baff
21:11
represents a lot of different things.
21:14
It represents to me like the duality
21:16
of just being a human, right?
21:19
Like especially nowadays, everyone's
21:21
sexuality and like preferences on blast.
21:24
Like I think that
21:25
all of us have some feminine
21:27
and male divine energy within us and I think the baff represents that. >> Hail Satan.
21:37
How does one become a
21:40
>> Satanists are born not made.
21:42
When I first read the Satanic
21:43
Bible at 13, it made sense to me.
21:45
And then when I read The Satanic
21:47
Witch, it really started to make sense to me because
21:51
I never read an occult book that was written for women.
21:54
That really sol solidified
21:56
me as being a satanic witch.
21:58
It taught me how to use my attributes
22:01
and my sexuality and my sensuality.
22:04
And even if people think I'm dumb, let them think you're dumb
22:07
because you can use it to your advantage.
22:09
It's crazy to me how publicly the satanic church operates in this day and
22:13
age because back in the 80s and '90s,
22:15
a wave of fear called the satanic
22:16
panic swept across America.
22:18
>> Warning signs of satanic
22:20
behavior may be >> People believe there were secret cults abusing kids, performing rituals, and
22:25
hiding in plain sight.
22:26
>> Smurfs carry a homosexual
22:28
connotation in that most of them are male. >> I believe so.
22:32
>> None of it was ever proven, but that didn't stop the media, the courts,
22:35
and the churches from turning it into a full-blown hysteria.
22:38
not unlike the witch trials or communist red scare.
22:40
>> So what happened to Anton Levy during this time
22:43
is basically they almost destroyed the church of Satan.
22:47
And it's really important
22:49
that we take a moment to focus on this
22:52
because this place wouldn't be here
22:55
if he didn't fight
22:57
for Satanism during that time.
22:58
>> Do you think there'll be another satanic
23:00
>> I hope not in my lifetime.
23:03
But if it is, honey, I'm coming.
23:05
I'm going to come for Find me. Fight me.
23:09
>> I love that >> the Satanic Temple uses art as well to make a political statement, right?
23:14
It's not about you.
23:15
There's not a Satanist that you've met in your life probably or even a
23:19
trans person or someone that thinks differently
23:22
that's done something bad to you.
23:24
You know, I'm not here to do anything bad to anyone.
23:27
I'm actually doing very good positive things in the world.
23:31
And I don't judge you,
23:33
so please don't judge me.
23:35
and and we can all get along.
23:37
So that's how I kind of feel about it.
23:39
And hell Satan, >> when Satanism
23:42
was created in the '60s,
23:45
you have to think of the climate
23:47
that 1966 in San Francisco was free.
23:50
Sexuality is a part of our rituals.
23:53
Sexual freedom, you know, like
23:56
if someone comes up to me and they're a sex worker, cool.
23:59
I don't have any,
24:01
you know, beef with that.
24:02
like whatever sexual empowerment
24:04
makes you great as long as you're not like going behind
24:08
somebody's back and their husband or something, you know, like
24:11
let's not do that. It's not cool.
24:12
But I'm probably not going to judge you.
24:14
But I take sexualism
24:16
from Satanism and I definitely use it as a ritual on stage as a burles dancer.
24:22
Uh, one of my most famous acts is me of of
24:25
a stripping as a stripping
24:31
>> When I was uh in high school,
24:33
I ended up getting
24:35
arrested for something that I did in school
24:38
because I was Gothic and I had
24:40
serial killers a Toz in my book bag and the Satanic
24:43
Bible and some Marilyn Manson lyrics.
24:45
I became a victim of the satanic panic.
24:48
They shipped me to a mental institution
24:51
for three months trying to whitewash me of Satanism.
24:54
We'll see how that worked. Right.
24:56
When I got in probation,
24:58
a part of my probation
24:59
was that I had to have normal hair color and I couldn't wear any black.
25:02
Yes, they can actually do that there.
25:05
And the day that
25:06
uh my probation was over, I dyed my hair black.
25:11
I was wearing like vinyl to school.
25:14
And then the officer that arrested me
25:17
somehow ended up coming to my school and saying, "Hey, can I talk to
25:21
you for a second?"
25:22
and said, "Oh, I'm concerned about you.
25:24
They told me they called me and told me that you
25:27
went back to yourself today."
25:29
And I was like, "Yeah, myself."
25:31
And he basically sat me down and took
25:34
uh Polaroid photos of me for his book on cults that he was going to write.
25:39
And from that day forward,
25:40
I never went to high school again
25:43
because my mom came
25:44
and signed me out and I got my GED
25:47
and I left school because
25:49
of the way that I was treated.
25:51
>> It makes you stronger. >> It does.
25:53
If that didn't change me, nothing will, sweetheart.
25:55
>> So, the word cult gets thrown around a lot.
25:57
Not only with Satanism, with everything. Everything's a cult. Everything's a cult.
26:00
>> The word a cult scares people.
26:03
And I think the word cult has been overused
26:06
so much also by the media.
26:08
A cult is a group of people that believe in have esoteric
26:12
beliefs of one thing or another.
26:14
It doesn't have to be one specific thing.
26:16
A cult is just a umbrella statement, right? >> Cult.
26:20
It didn't come from Manson,
26:22
but Manson made it popular in modern times.
26:25
So when you look at me, do you think of Charles Manson? >> Thank you.
26:29
>> You're not a serial fan.
26:29
>> So I'm not a cult member,
26:32
even though people think I am.
26:34
If I was in the Manson
26:36
family, then I would be a cult member.
26:38
Does that make sense to y'all?
26:39
>> Makes sense to me. Cool.
26:40
>> Whether you see it as trolling or a form of protest, Satanism
26:43
today is less about the devil and more about the separation of church and state.
26:46
From courtroom battles to community outreach, they're using shock to spark change.
26:50
The people I met today in Massachusetts
26:52
are thoughtful, organized, and they stand up for something bigger than themselves.
26:55
And I got to say, it really isn't that strange after all.
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