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The Downfall of OnePlus will be Studied
The Downfall of OnePlus will be Studied
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15:04 · 26 thg 1, 2026
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So I, like a lot of you,
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got an article on my timeline this week that had the headline that said,
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"EXCLUSIVE: OnePlus is being dismantled."
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And I said, "Oh, that's big news."
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So I read the whole article.
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Turned out there is no exclusive information,
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and it was mostly just a bunch of speculation about why the brand might
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have to shut down at some point.
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And also, it reads a lot like it was written by ChatGPT.
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I'm not even gonna link to it, but either way,
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it got me thinking a lot more about the arc of OnePlus.
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There is a pretty timeless video—it's like eight years old now—from Techaltar about why
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enthusiast brands will always betray you.
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I will link that one below.
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It is crazy how evergreen
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that video is because
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so many companies keep following
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that arc of starting off
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as an enthusiast-focused company
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and then eventually turning.
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And the thing is, they don't all survive it.
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Like, many companies die on the leap from being a successful enthusiast company to
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hopefully someday becoming a mass-appeal brand.
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Lots of them don't make it.
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You might remember Nextbit, or Essential, or even ASUS,
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who had two different enthusiast hits.
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But OnePlus, well, OnePlus is still alive here in 2026.
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They've now done the whole arc from start to finish,
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and so they've sort of accidentally become the blueprint for survival
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as an enthusiast brand.
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And betrayal is a part of that blueprint.
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So let me explain.
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So if there's one thing that we all know has been true forever,
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it's that breaking into the US smartphone market is basically impossible.
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Like, it's been this duopoly for as long as time has existed.
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It feels like it's Samsung and Apple.
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And in 2014, it was also Samsung and Apple, and then, you know,
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LG and HTC and Motorola kind of fighting over the last few scraps of
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the last couple percent.
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And then this came out: the OnePlus One.
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You remember this??
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like, some of you were around for these good old days,
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but for those of you who are too young to remember,
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let me fill you in.
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The hype for this phone was absolutely nuts.
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Before it even started shipping,
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it had all these flagship specs with the latest-gen Snapdragon 800 series chip,
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and it was $300 somehow, which was unreal.
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Had this pretty clean design with this little new sandstone thing going on.
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And then it had this clean software; it was running CyanogenMod.
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So this developer-friendly, clean,
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no-bloatware experience—it was just... it was a breath of fresh air.
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They called it the "flagship killer,"
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because why would anyone spend $600
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or $700 on the Apple
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or Samsung flagships anymore
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when you can get this?
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At least, that's what the enthusiast mindset was.
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But of course, the enthusiast was also the only one who was gonna find
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the OnePlus One.
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You know, searching online for new, smart... actually buying one?
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You needed an invite to buy one.
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They had this whole system; it was crazy hard to get.
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But despite all of that,
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they still sold over a million of these things
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and they were immediately on the map.
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It was just right recipe, right time.
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It looks genius.
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But of course, now they have a dilemma on their hands,
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because they've captured the hearts of the exact worst customer group imaginable: the enthusiast.
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You know, it's exciting because they're the most hyped right now,
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but they're also the most picky.
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They have the highest standards and they're somehow the least loyal because, you know,
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if something else pops up with slightly better specs,
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then they'll just leave and go buy that instead.
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And it's the smallest group of people relative to the population.
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See that group right there?
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That's who you just got the attention of: the enthusiast, the early adopter.
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But there's this whole rest of the smartphone-buying public who still doesn't even really
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know you exist yet.
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This is not sustainable, but... it's a hell of a start.
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So now what?
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I've said many times,
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the second generation of anything tells you the most about it,
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because that's where you see what the company learned
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and what they're gonna do about it.
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And that's when you first see them, like,
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pick a direction and start chasing something.
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So with the first OnePlus phone, they made a lot of choices,
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a lot of the right tradeoffs to nail these things that enthusiasts were after.
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Like, they made the active choice to leave out things
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that other mainstream phones had,
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like an official IP rating or even doing any advertising,
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because this would all save money
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that would be passed down to the end-user.
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And tech heads, including me—we raved about this.
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We loved it.
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We ate it up.
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So with the OnePlus 2,
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you could almost see them being terrified not to mess this up.
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They kept a lot of the same stuff, same design;
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they did a couple standard spec bumps
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and they bumped the price up just a tiny bit to $330.
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But they also decided to make this thing called the OnePlus X.
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And it was a little weird.
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It was not a flagship phone.
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It was also not really an enthusiast phone.
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It was a $250 mid-range, kind of designer type of phone.
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They had a special ceramic limited edition,
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and then they also made the non-ceramic one.
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It was... it was a good price.
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It just wasn't something that enthusiasts were really interested in at all.
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It's just a little wobble in their otherwise pretty focused "flagship killer" mentality.
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So the OnePlus 3 and 3T were very much back to being enthusiast phones.
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Super high-end specs, rapid iteration, lots of interesting, cool features.
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They were back on track.
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You just can't forget about that little wobble.
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So if you ask someone who's been around long enough what was "peak OnePlus,"
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they'd probably say somewhere around the OnePlus 5
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and the OnePlus 6.
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And they were on top of the world by the OnePlus 7 series.
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They'd iterated on the design quite a bit with thinner
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and thinner bezels and fingerprint readers
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and bigger batteries and much faster charging.
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And they'd obviously moved on from CyanogenMod,
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but now they had their own flavor of Android, OxygenOS,
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which was this super smooth and fast, optimized software.
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They had a software team that had come into their own,
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tweaking all kinds of animations
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and timing and making these phones
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as responsive as possible.
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By this point, basically anyone who reviews phones
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or says anything about phones at all is basically on the same page
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that these were the best bang for the buck in the entire industry.
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They'd blown past, like, "if you know, you know" status,
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and it was literally like
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if anyone is a smartphone reviewer
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or has a tech blog
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or weighs in about smartphones at all,
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everyone was like, "Yeah, these are some of the best smartphones."
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You can even see it in the titles of my reviews.
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Back then, the OnePlus 6 was "Right on the Money."
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The OnePlus 7 was "Under the Radar."
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OnePlus 7 Pro was "Silly Fast!"
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and the 7T Pro was "Tiny Tweaks to Excellence."
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I think my favorite OnePlus phone of all time would be the OnePlus 7T
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Pro.
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That thing... that is a phone I genuinely believe I could still use today
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and be totally happy with!
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Between the really modern design, the super clean software, the ridiculously responsive performance,
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the really fast charging, even the pop-up selfie camera,
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and it was 660 bucks...
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I just, I remember so clearly.
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I loved that thing.
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But even at this point, the masses are still not really buying these phones.
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Don't get me wrong, they're very successful, but with a niche,
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small audience—the early adopters,
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the people who will watch MKBHD smartphone reviews and then maybe preorder one online.
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But most people are not doing that.
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Most people are right here,
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buying phones in carrier stores every three to four years,
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but buying the safe option that's, you know, pretty similar to their last option.
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And so if OnePlus could find a way to get from here... to here,
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then they could finally do it.
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They could finally be the new company
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that comes along and actually breaks apart the duopoly,
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basically, that's been selling all the phones in the US the whole time:
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Samsung and Apple every year.
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Or they could be competitive in new markets and... jump into India,
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where there's super fast growth,
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and they could actually scale up and be a big player from nothing.
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Maybe a carrier deal in the US will do the trick?
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Or maybe a few commercials here and there.
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But be careful... careful.
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Don't mess this up.
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The enthusiasts still like you.
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So here's the problem.
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You have won over the enthusiasts.
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It is like they all love you right now,
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but they are still the absolute worst group to be your prime customer base.
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They are the smallest group, and they are the most fickle.
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They have the highest standards and they are the least loyal.
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This isn't sustainable.
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So you need to leverage this success over here to get to... the masses,
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the less picky, more casual, brand-loyal, large audience to actually scale up.
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But... the thing that won over those enthusiasts is the exact opposite of what
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the masses want.
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Like all this cost-cutting
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and spec-maxing and customization
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and optimization you've been doing for the enthusiast.
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And it's great, we eat that stuff up.
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Making the phone waterproof
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but skipping the official IP rating to save a few bucks
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and pass those savings down to the customer...
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Legendary!
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Not really running any commercials
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or doing any carrier deals
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and selling phones directly to consumers for lower prices.
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Perfect.
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But the masses do not really reward this type of behavior with their dollars
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at all.
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In fact, they want the safe option that does have the IP rating,
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the one that is on the shelf of the carrier store.
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So if you want to offer something that the masses actually want,
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that will be the exact something... that drives the enthusiasts away.
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And every enthusiast brand, every single one, has this... realization... at some point.
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Whether they knew it right
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when they were starting
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or they very quickly realized it
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as they started selling it
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and it was all enthusiasts buying it.
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And some tried to make the transition smoothly and gracefully.
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Like Asus with the ROG Phone.
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Like the early ROG Phones,
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the Republic of Gamers phones... were hardware-focused gaming enthusiast phones with extra-high refresh rates
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and all of the gaming features
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and design.
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And then they slowly... neutered it little by little
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and toned it down
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and had a less aggressive design
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and softened the edges
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and made room for more mainstream features like wireless charging.
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And—that failed.
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Now the ROG Phone is dead.
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You might also remember the Zenfone, which again, from Asus,
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they tried not so smoothly.
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They actually tried to just jump...
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So they had a mega-enthusiast hit on their hands with the Zenfone 9
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and the Zenfone 10.
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And once again, everyone who reviewed these phones loved them.
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But guess what?
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The masses don't buy small phones.
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They want big screens, pretty simply.
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So they tried this quick pivot with a huge Zenfone 11 Ultra.
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And, well, you can see how terribly those things went.
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Pretty predictably.
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The mission is, it's so tricky.
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If you want to successfully make this jump,
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you have to aggressively build this new audience
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and you have to somehow do it faster... than you lose your old one.
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This is my title for the OnePlus 8 review: "Special.
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No More."
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And then these are my titles for the OnePlus 10 Pro
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and 10T videos... yeah.
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OnePlus has somehow pulled off the most successful,
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but also least successful jump from enthusiast to mainstream that we've ever seen.
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Like, they actually tried a bunch of things.
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They tried slowly adopting some of these mass-market things,
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like switching to the all-glass designs instead of the metal backs.
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They added official IP ratings eventually for waterproofing.
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They'd also continued to turn up the price with each new phone,
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like slowly turning up the temperature on a stove.
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These are now $900 phones.
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So they also added a budget line called OnePlus Nord
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and started making a bunch of phones
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that were less expensive.
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So they could keep selling their super expensive phones,
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but then they would also at least offer something that's less expensive,
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but it's more of like a midrange phone.
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They also started making carrier deals in the US
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so they could start selling phones to the masses
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that buy in stores.
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And that's a different business model.
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And obviously these are more expensive phones to make up for that.
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But it's a lot going on.
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This is also around the time that the co-founder, Carl Pei,
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left the company.
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They struck a partnership with Hasselblad starting with the OnePlus 9 series.
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And in an effort to give people confidence about their cameras,
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which are very important to mainstream buyers, by the OnePlus 10,
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they'd almost completely lost their identity from before.
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They're dropping phones at this point
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that very closely resemble their cousin company Oppo's phones more than ever.
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So Peak OnePlus for us enthusiasts was like OnePlus 6, OnePlus 7.
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I think if you asked OnePlus,
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peak for their books was probably like OnePlus 10
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when they had like a whole big product lineup going on.
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But also, none of it really stood out anymore.
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Like they had parts of their identity still.
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Like the fast charging, they never got rid of that.
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And their software OxygenOS...
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though even that pretty quickly started fading to resemble Oppo's ColorOS,
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which isn't bad—it's just fine, really.
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So we are all the way at OnePlus 15 now... which, solid phone?
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I've been dailying it for a couple months.
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Still really smooth, great battery life, really fast charging.
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You know, pretty generic-looking design.
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Cameras aren't that good, but it's fine.
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But the enthusiast has long moved on.
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There were Pocophones and Sony Xperia phones
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and Nothing phones and all sorts of stuff in between.
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But now this is one of those phones
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that we can recommend more to everyday people.
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So... success??
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Technically.
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Barely.
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So I say the downfall of OnePlus will be studied,
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because they are still alive.
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Like, that much is true about this company.
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It was like the OnePlus One—this was the ultimate pure enthusiast phone.
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And they've done the whole arc now all the way till what they are
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today.
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Still alive.
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Gotta give them credit for that.
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So if you're another enthusiast brand,
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this is at least a path for what it can look like to survive:
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going from that to mainstream appeal, and the very, very deliberate,
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slowly peeling back of the enthusiast edges
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and the softening of things up
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and not losing the enthusiast too fast
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and appealing more to the mainstream audience.
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Ironically, it seems like Carl is speedrunning the same process with Nothing
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as a company.
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But that's another story for another day.
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But at the end of the day,
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we don't—we obviously don't know what's happening with the future of OnePlus.
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You know, there's rumors
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and murmurings that the next foldable got canceled
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and that the sequel to their compact flagship also got cancelled...
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I do think we'll probably see a OnePlus 16 at some point this year...
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But then what?
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You know.
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But the one thing
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that is for certain is this arc will have to be studied by anyone
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else who plans on taking on the same challenge
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that has burned and killed
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so many companies in the process.
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Because... enthusiasts do not forget.
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Just like you shouldn't forget to pick up one of these cozy sweatshirts at
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MKBHD.com.
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Very warm as we're about to get snowed on...
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Either way, thanks for watching.
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Catch you guys in the next one.
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Peace!
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