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Doctor Reacts To Extreme Diseases
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In medicine, we always say that we should celebrate everybody.
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And that literally means everybody.
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So, on this episode,
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let's react to bizarre bodies and love them just as much.
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Huge thanks to Zakdoc for sponsoring this video.
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>> In Kansas City, 28-year-old Justice Collins suffers from a rare sleep condition.
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>> Narcopsy type 1 is a neurological disorder where my brain can't regulate my
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sleep cycles.
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>> That's already a great explanation of what narcolepsy is.
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I'm glad she pointed out that it's type one.
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There are two different subtypes, type one and type two.
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The real issue within narcolepsy is that there is a neurotransmitter deficiency called arexin.
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And as a result,
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you can't manage your sleep wake cycle that she just described.
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It's not like you're just sleeping more in a 24-hour period
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as compared to a regular person.
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You're actually sleeping the same amount.
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It just your sleep is completely disregulated
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because that neurotransmitter or Rexin allows you to stay awake.
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It keeps you awake.
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>> This will cause me to fall asleep without warning.
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Typical morning for me 3:00 is
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when my first alarm goes off
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and get ready to go to the gym.
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>> Yeah.
1:13
So imagine they can't sleep well at night
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but sometimes fall asleep inappropriately during the day.
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This can happen during boring activities, just being sedentary,
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and it's obviously extremely disruptive to one's life.
1:25
Imagine you can't sleep well at night, and during the day,
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you're falling asleep at all these inappropriate times.
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>> I'll head to the gym at around 4, get back to the apartment,
1:35
take a shower, and then go back to sleep for like my morning nap.
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I always tell people it's not waking up that's the issue,
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it's staying up that's the problem.
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Interestingly, when we make diagnosis uh for narcolepsy,
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we do two types of sleep testing.
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The traditional type of sleep testing and one called multiple sleep latency tests,
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which basically allows us to see how quickly one can fall asleep after numerous
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naps progressively throughout the day.
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And for a regular individual, if you can fall asleep for a nap,
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the next time that you try and have a nap,
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it's going to be difficult to begin that nap.
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That's called sleep latency.
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So ideally that period should get longer and longer,
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but usually if you have narcolepsy,
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you can have multiple naps throughout the day where you fall asleep quite quickly.
2:21
>> There's no off button and there's no like not having it for a day.
2:26
I played my day to like put myself in the best position to be
2:30
successful.
2:31
Earliest that I can think about having an episode is probably like second grade.
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I remember being in class
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and trying to like pop rubber bands on my wrist.
2:39
I'm like trying to eat things, drink, do anything to keep myself awake.
2:43
>> This is not an issue of self-control.
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This is a neurotransmitter, a neuropeptide,
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cuz I know everyone loves peptides in the brain.
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And as a result of we think it's autoimmune damage to this uh neuron
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that actually creates a rexin
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that it you have a deficiency in the this neurotransmitter,
3:02
therefore having less ability to control your wakefulness.
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Interestingly, there are some theories
3:08
that there's potentially an infectious root cause
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that begins the autoimmune process to destroy those neurons
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that could be tied to influenza,
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the flu, and even strep throat.
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>> And I physically could not stay awake no matter what I did.
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And I was like, I don't think I think this is normal.
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>> And there's also a few other components here. cataplexi where there is literally
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a weakening or giving out of certain muscles on the face,
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sometimes on the body during moments of happiness, elation, laughter.
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Uh there's hallucinations as you're like falling asleep.
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Uh sleep paralysis where you're awake
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but for a couple of minutes even
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though while you're awake you can't move.
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It's truly terrifying.
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>> Every outing for justice is a risk.
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In the US, it's legal to drive with narcolepsy,
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but taking to the wheel could have fatal consequences.
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>> I'm surprised if you have multiple episodes falling asleep
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while driving that you can continue to have a driver's license.
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I feel like there's got to be a neurologic evaluation there.
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>> Today, her sister Ava has opted to drive.
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Within moments, a narcolepsy cycle starts.
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Had Justice been driving, a catastrophic collision could have occurred.
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Sometimes I'm able to wake her up and she'll wake up.
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Sometimes she'll sleep through it.
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Uh it depends on justice in her body sometimes.
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Usually what I tell people is don't wake her up.
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Let her let her be.
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It's not a big deal.
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An interesting tidbit about narcolepsy is
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that when they wake up from these small sleeps,
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these sleep attacks if you will, there's a feeling of being well-rested,
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which is unlike uh if you have, let's say,
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sleep apnnea where you're having difficulty with your sleep wake cycles
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and you have daytime sleepiness
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and you don't feel well rested
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when you wake up.
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But usually from these sleep attacks, you wake up feeling okay.
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So I can hear what's going on around me.
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When I was younger,
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I used to think I had superpowers cuz I could like play back conversations
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that I was asleep for.
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It's the trippiest thing.
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>> Other people may wonder what's going on.
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It's funny to see people sleeping out in public.
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So sometimes that brings some attention.
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So I just make sure just to keep her safe.
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Just making sure people respect her and that her episode is not a spectacle.
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Right.
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>> Yeah.
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You don't want people laughing at your medical condition,
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especially an invisible medical condition like this, of which there are plenty.
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But there are medication options uh
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that are available for this
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that uh certainly play a role.
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Uh there's certain uh medications on the horizon
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that can play a genetic role in this.
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Um so there's there is hope in the future for those who suffer with
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narcolepsy.
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>> There are challenging days where I'm like, "This day was shot.
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My disorder was whooping my butt today."
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But understanding as a young person that you still can live a functional life,
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that you still can achieve the things you want to achieve.
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I think that is the biggest understanding
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that you aren't like chained in by your disorder.
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And if the worst thing in my life is
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that I have to allocate a few extra naps
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and be a little more cognizant about
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when I drive,
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I'll take that.
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>> That's a great outlook on a complex condition.
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Not everyone will feel that way,
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but this is an example of post-traumatic growth overcoming through a very difficult challenge.
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Remember humans are resilient and we our brains are wired to be resilient.
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So for all this talk about PTSD
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and that term is used casually quite often.
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Most people do not suffer PTSD
6:40
or go into a very dark place
6:43
when something negative happens to them.
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They may temporarily and that's appropriate but I'm talking about pathologic dark place.
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And the brain is wired for success.
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If and if it happens that you're not having success, that's where medical help,
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mental health help can come into play.
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>> When doing my morning routine, things look a little bit differently for me.
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For example, I'll sit on the floor to brush my teeth.
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>> So, when someone has uh a limb length discrepancy in a scenario like this,
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it can be traumatic,
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meaning that they got into an accident
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or it could be congenital
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that they were born in this way.
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There are unique scenarios where uh it's something
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that is acquired as well
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but more commonly falls one two of those two categories.
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>> Terresa Bookholtz was born without fully formed arms.
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>> So it's some kind of congenital dysplasia
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or a plasia of the long bone of the arm.
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Anything I do is definitely centered around my limb difference
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because the world is not built for um a limb different person,
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specifically someone missing both their arms.
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>> What doctors do know is
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that exposure to chemicals
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and viruses can affect an embryo's development in the uterus,
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causing these life-changing differences to occur.
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My mom was a physical therapist,
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so she had one of her friends who was an occupational therapist come to
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our house.
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And I remember we were just all sitting in the bathroom
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and I was trying to figure out like how am I going to get
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my pants up?
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How am I going to get my pants up in public?
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Just like learning how to do hygiene things was definitely one of my earliest
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memories.
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>> I think hygiene
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and safety are the two most important things to take into consideration in a
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scenario like this. um need to be able to stay free of bacteria,
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of germs, infections, but also be able to care for yourself in in case
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of an emergency if there's a fire,
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being able to turn off the stove in a way
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that she's not going to burn her foot.
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Little things like that make a big difference
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that we take for granted every single day.
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>> I use this hook.
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My waistband and my pants is always a little wonky.
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So, I'm going to fix that really quick.
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I use the hook to get my pants up and down.
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>> So, people use hooks like this.
8:56
They use very specific devices to put socks on.
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Uh there's significant investment being made in creating devices to help those with unique
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uh congenital deformities and just variations,
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anatomical variations.
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>> I'm going to text my sister really quickly to see how far away
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she is.
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>> The more you use the neuromuscular pathway,
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the better control you develop of that neuromuscular pathway.
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So the control that an individual like myself would have of their toes is
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drastically different than the control she has given the fact
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that she uses her toes for these fine motor movements.
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>> Glad you're here.
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>> We both have the same limb difference and it is congenital limb loss,
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meaning we were both born this way.
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>> We're not exactly sure why this happened to us.
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>> We were both adopted at pretty young ages.
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Obviously being from the same family, genetic is a possibility,
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but exposure uh to either, as they said,
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a virus or perhaps uh an environmental toxin,
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medication can be a cause as well.
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>> Congenital limb differences have been attributed to chemicals left behind from the Vietnam War,
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pesticides from farming, or a lack of folic acid in birth mother's diets.
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>> The hardest things are just those daily things like getting dressed, carrying things,
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riding was a challenge.
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Just any daily activity was a struggle for us.
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>> Yeah, it requires more planning.
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It requires assistance, asking for assistance, even when perhaps it's uncomfortable.
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>> I think that arms are overrated because people assume that you're incapable.
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And here I am.
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I'm capable.
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I'm in grad school living my dreams.
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I went on a night out with my friends.
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Everything was normal.
12:09
The next day, I woke up with like tingly legs, like pins and needles.
12:15
About half an hour, an hour later,
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I was in my ex partner's car with my friends.
12:21
As I went to pull my seat forward,
12:24
the left side of my face dropped.
12:26
Um, and I wet myself.
12:30
>> Oh, is she having a stroke?
12:31
Because she's losing control of her bowel and bladder.
12:34
Although, no, this is a it could be cotinus syndrome.
12:38
>> I cried and screamed.
12:40
I couldn't move my legs at all. like I couldn't even move my toes
12:44
or anything.
12:45
>> Codiaquinina, I think, literally means the end of a horse tail
12:49
because the end of your spinal cord kind of looks like a horse tail.
12:52
And when there's incredible impingement or pressure or damage to that area,
12:56
you actually lose sensation to the lower parts of your body.
13:00
You lose muscular control uh of your bowels and bladder.
13:04
So, this would right away need evaluation for that.
13:08
>> They ended up calling an ambulance.
13:09
So, I got rushed to hospital. also could be multiple sclerosis.
13:12
I mean, like the differential diagnosis here is still broad.
13:15
>> Thinking she may have been spiked, they carried out blood and urine tests,
13:20
but there were no traces of drugs in her system.
13:22
>> And I'm assuming they did imaging.
13:24
Usually, in order to make a diagnosis of MS,
13:26
it would require MRIs of the brain and spinal cord.
13:30
>> Mary Jade was kept under close observation until doctors diagnose her with functional
13:36
neurological disorder or FND.
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It causes me paralysis, blindness.
13:42
I have seizures.
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>> Oh, the these are a whole lot of other symptoms
13:46
that have been presented
13:47
that I was not ready for.
13:49
>> I use catheterss to go to the toilet because my bladder goes into retention.
13:55
I also get incontinents and many other symptoms.
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>> Yeah.
13:59
So, FND is a very complex condition in
14:02
that uh a lot of tests
14:04
that we do both imaging,
14:06
blood, etc. will come up normal.
14:08
It requires a very experienced neurologist in the condition to make this diagnosis appropriately
14:15
based on some specific clinical signs,
14:18
the symptoms that a patient experiences, the timing of the condition,
14:21
and it's a functional issue in that there's nothing actually wrong anatomically.
14:26
It's the or chemically even.
14:28
It it's simply that the neurologic system is malfunctioning.
14:32
Mary Jade suffers from functional seizures which can present as uncontrollable blackouts, collapsing,
14:38
and twitching.
14:40
These episodes can be life-threatening due to injuries from falling
14:44
or choking on excessive saliva
14:46
and vomit.
14:47
>> That's so scary.
14:48
Imagine like you just have no control over when a condition happens,
14:51
no true understanding of why the condition is happening.
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It's got to be incredibly frustrating.
14:55
>> So, we know the condition is very rare.
14:58
Did the question is did you know it was possible before learning of your
15:02
diagnosis?
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What does that mean?
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>> Mom.
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Mom.
15:16
>> I can't believe they got one on camera.
15:17
Look how intense that is.
15:19
She has medication bands that say her condition, which is important,
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but we also don't take it
15:24
as fact at times
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because that's not an official line of medical communication.
15:29
>> After the trauma of the seizure, Mary Jade will need help to recover.
15:34
>> All I can do is help her when she's having a seizure,
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but I don't know how to stop it.
15:38
I don't know how to prevent it.
15:42
>> Mary Jade can have up to 40 seizures a day.
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A lot of these seizures are treated not by medications
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but by therapies like CBT
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and others.
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>> The cause of FND is unknown.
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For now, all Mary Jade can do is manage her life-changing symptoms.
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>> Yeah, the goal here is really to retrain the brain and body,
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and that's easier said than done.
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>> I have brilliant family and friends that really help look after me.
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And I'm also grateful for the fact
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that I didn't give up
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when so many times I wanted to.
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>> Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean it's very important to not give up.
16:17
Work with a multid-disciplinary team, occupational therapist, speech language pathologist.
16:21
I mean, you need an entire team to help you in a scenario like
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this.
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>> In Peach Tree City, USA,
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Ashley Kerpiel is suffering from a very rare disorder
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which is turning her muscles to bone.
16:33
>> Oh, muscles to bone.
16:35
So this is some kind of oification process
16:40
because what happens when you have injury you do experience a little bit of
16:45
fibrosis calcium being deposited
16:48
but I think in a condition like this you actually have new bone forming
16:52
where like the entire joint oifies the connective tissue
16:56
that normally makes a joint functional becomes bone >> basically I'm kind of turning
17:01
into a human statue in the sense >> the condition is called fibroisplasia oificans
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progressiviver or fop.
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>> I mean that's really rare.
17:10
I mean hundreds of people globally.
17:13
>> It affects roughly 800 people in the world
17:15
and Ashley is one of just 300 cases known in the United States.
17:20
>> One of the more very problematic issues with a condition like this is
17:24
intuitively you start thinking,
17:26
oh well remove the excess bone surgically in order to give the person range
17:30
of motion.
17:30
But sometimes removing surgically
17:33
that bone actually creates a hyper excessive bone growth
17:38
because this uh turning of connective tissue into bone can happen spontaneously
17:43
or it can happen
17:44
as a result to injury.
17:45
So surgery can be that injury that actually triggers more bone formation.
17:50
>> She was very healthy.
17:51
She was sweet.
17:52
She was an adorable baby girl.
17:54
and we took her home
17:55
and it wasn't until she was about two
17:58
and a half almost three years old
18:00
when we noticed a lump come up on her back.
18:03
>> This is a condition where this like gene editing
18:06
that we frequently talk about would be a really great place to to use
18:11
it.
18:11
>> We took her immediately to her pediatrician
18:14
and he couldn't quite understand what it was.
18:16
He thought maybe some kind of tumor.
18:18
It was very red and warm to the touch.
18:20
I mean, if it was really red and warm to the touch,
18:23
I would think abscess.
18:24
That's first and foremost.
18:26
I'm surprised they thought tumor.
18:28
>> At 3 years old,
18:29
Ashley was misdiagnosed with infantile myof fibromyitosis and doctors amputated her arm.
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>> We were told uh she would be fine.
18:40
We take her home at the end of the day
18:42
and then after eight hours of operation,
18:44
there was literally nothing left to to save in her arms.
18:47
So, we were told it was just a decision
18:49
that was made and we weren't consulted
18:51
as to uh that being a possibility even,
18:54
never mind that that was going to happen.
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>> That's a terrible way for that to happen.
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Not because it wouldn't have happened otherwise,
19:02
but the fact that someone doesn't have full consent,
19:05
informed consent to know what the risks going into a procedure are,
19:10
why the procedure needed to have happened, was there other options,
19:14
other avenues that they could have gone down?
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Uh it's really unfortunate
19:17
when patient autonomy is lost like this
19:19
because we we practice by
19:20
that principle and we should continue practicing by
19:22
that principle.
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>> Around six months later,
19:25
the hospital in Atlanta phoned to say that Ashley was really suffering from FOP.
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>> They told us it was extremely rare.
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We probably would never hear or see anyone with this disease.
19:37
>> I have patients with all sorts of very unique diseases.
19:40
Some where they have limitations of their spinal movement. one with a condition called
19:45
dish.
19:46
Very complex, huge extra curve
19:49
that is formed in the spine
19:51
that makes movement quite painful.
19:53
But at least in those conditions, there are potential avenues for some surgeries.
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Here, that's not an option.
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>> It's one of the most devastating diseases to mankind.
20:02
It's a very cruel, wicked disease.
20:04
The body freezes and eventually the only thing
20:07
that can move the lips
20:10
and the eyelashes,
20:11
the eye eyelids.
20:13
It's a progressive disease, so symptoms inevitably get worse over time.
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>> A flare up with FOP is um a lot of pain.
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Uh sometimes a lot of swelling.
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>> Hold on.
20:27
Don't It's I can't get that wheelchair behind me.
20:30
It's There we go.
20:32
>> So painful that she couldn't even get under a fan.
20:35
Just the air from the fan would hit it
20:37
and it would send her up the wall.
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>> Yeah.
20:39
Think about it.
20:40
The connective tissue now turning into bone. how much pressure that puts on nerves.
20:44
And you know the the balance of keeping your bones healthy is such an
20:48
intricate and unique balance
20:50
because if you have your bones become too strong
20:53
that actually becomes problematic.
20:55
We have a condition known
20:56
as osteopetrosis where the bones get stronger
21:00
but because they become stronger they end up becoming more brittle
21:04
and easier to crack.
21:06
It's kind of uh paradoxical in nature.
21:09
And on the flip side,
21:10
you have a condition osteiogenesis imperfecta where you have brittle bones.
21:14
So like incredibly weak bones
21:15
and then you have ricketetts where you don't have enough of a certain nutrient
21:19
and then you develop weaker bones.
21:21
Man, uh bone health is very interesting.
21:23
You literally have two cell lines called osteoclast
21:25
and osteoblast that monitor the breakdown of bone to get calcium out
21:29
and then osteo uh blast to add calcium
21:34
and build bone up.
21:35
So you have two processes happening at the same time.
21:38
And if that balance is lost, you can have a destruction in your bone.
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>> FOP impacts my daily life pretty much all day every day.
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I cannot dress myself.
21:49
>> I can't bathe myself.
21:51
I can't do my hair.
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>> All right, I'll back up.
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>> I need help in the kitchen getting food cuz I can't reach things.
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>> Thank you.
21:59
>> I need help with everyday life.
22:03
It's tough being an adult not being able to take care of yourself.
22:06
There are currently seven drug treatments in trial right now for FOP.
22:11
I am a human guinea pig for one of the drug studies for FOP.
22:15
Growing up, we never had that.
22:16
Like, we never thought we would see that day.
22:18
And the closer we get, the more people we get,
22:20
the more awareness and funding we get to to try
22:23
and find that cure out there.
22:24
Got it.
22:28
>> For Ashley, remaining social is vital
22:31
and she has found her community online using social media.
22:36
>> Finally, something positive about social media
22:38
and a good use of it uh
22:40
as opposed to all the algorithmic bad news.
22:43
The the bright spot of social media has always been connecting unique communities to
22:48
one another.
22:49
Whether it's an LGBTQ community or someone with a unique medical condition,
22:53
finding those communities and finding people who are like-minded,
22:58
who you feel safe around,
22:59
who you feel seen around is of utmost importance for a healthy mindset.
23:05
>> I started this because I grew up this way.
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Ampute life is just my normal.
23:10
But these people that go through it later in life need that support.
23:13
And it's like it's family.
23:14
Giving back, being in service of others is an antidote to feeling bad yourself.
23:19
And that is a good thing.
23:20
That is the inner humanity in all of us
23:22
that actually allows us to heal,
23:24
to come together, why we're better as a collective than as individuals.
23:28
So, uh, it's a really powerful statement that she's making there.
23:32
Sometimes I actually argue with my patients and sometimes it saves their lives.
23:36
Click here to check that out.
23:37
And as always, stay happy and health.
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