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ariana grande & the failure of choice feminism
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We've now figured out how to weaponize extremely strategic
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and cynical social justice language
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or feminist language to pretend
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as if even acknowledging these problems
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that to be clear affect all of us
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as we watch them is somehow bigoted
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or misogynist or at minimum insensitive.
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That's a really crucial difference, right?
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We not only now are watching people be sick in public,
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we can't even say that they're sick.
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Hi everyone.
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Um it's me, Chelsea.
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I am not in what may appear to be some sort of Moroccan spa.
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I am indeed uh in the little studio where we are going to be
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filming our final episodes of Just Getting Good in the morning.
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My train literally just pulled into the station here an hour ago
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and I had absolutely no intention of pulling out my camera
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and filming a video,
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but um in case you didn't see,
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I made a short video about this subject yesterday
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that has already caused some conversation here
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and elsewhere,
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but in addition to kind of expanding on
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that and speaking about this subject in a more nuanced way
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and responding to some of those comments,
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I also want to This is just kind of an issue where I really
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want to plant my flag in the ground
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and and really speak on this topic
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because I think that among all the problems
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that we have right now in our country
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and in the world,
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one of them is
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that I think we are in a very scary place
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as it pertains to feminism
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and specifically women's bodies,
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how we talk about them, how we think about them.
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And although, and this is to head off the comments,
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we are primarily a financial channel.
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We do talk about all kinds of socio-political issues including ones
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that um may not be
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as directly related to money
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and this is one of them.
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This is going to be much more about feminism and bodies.
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If that is not your bag, no worries.
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We can meet each other later.
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I'm not going to do my usual ad spiel.
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If you've been thinking about getting a hold of your money,
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the products that we use and endorse are in the description.
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Check them out if you want.
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If not, no worries, but um I want to get into this topic.
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I'm going to start with a big trigger warning
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that we are going to be specifically speaking about disordered eating,
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mental illness, addiction, um extreme thinness, body dysmorphia,
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all of these topics that I know are very sensitive for people.
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And if that is not a subject you feel comfortable hearing right now,
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no worries at all, but this is not the video for you.
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I'm going to speak about these things very, very candidly.
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Yeah, I I really hope
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that we can deal with this subject with some compassion
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and nuance,
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but also with a lot of honesty,
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because I think it is specifically the honesty
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that has been really missing in the way
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that we talk about these things.
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What specifically spurred on my video yesterday was some footage from the first concerts
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of Ariana Grande's new tour,
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um which were I'm just going to put a few stills here on screen.
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These have not been edited.
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These are just candids taken from people in the audience, um some you know,
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candid videos of her, uh obviously looking really, really scary, extremely, severely underweight,
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and also seemingly barely being able to uh do any kind of basic choreography,
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being extremely low energy, just looking really on the verge of collapse.
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And seeing those videos populate my social media accounts,
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uh really pushed me to make the video that I made yesterday,
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which I will just play in its entirety here,
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because I don't want to These are very sensitive issues,
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so I want to just quote myself exactly here.
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So, I can tolerate a lot in terms of how our culture tends to
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mishandle really serious issues,
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but one thing I have always struggled with is having my intelligence insulted.
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For 2 years straight, the entire Wicked press tour,
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there was a never-ending cycle of conversation, wherein people would rightfully point out,
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"Hey, something is really wrong here."
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Not just in terms of physical appearance,
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but also with all of the additional context we have from old social media
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posts,
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well-documented mental health issues, etc.
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That not only do we as a society have a responsibility to not normalize,
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let alone glamorize this,
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we also have an increased responsibility to do
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so when the target of this massive media empire is specifically young women
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and girls.
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Which is not to say we need to blame a sick person for being
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sick,
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but rather how we talk about that sickness as a society,
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as with things like addiction, for example, really matters.
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And every time those comments were met with, "You don't know.
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She could be at her healthiest right now.
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Don't talk about women's bodies."
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Or even invoking cases like Chadwick Boseman
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as if to imply
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that anyone talking about this is insensitive
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because it's equally likely
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that she could be dying of cancer instead of suffering from the extremely well-documented
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mental illness that she has already been on record
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as having.
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And to in any way address what is happening right in front of our
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faces and being endlessly glamorized in the media,
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because to be clear, whether now or on the Wicked tour,
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we are still getting endless promotional photo shoots and interviews and highlight reels.
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All somewhere between insensitive and outright misogynist.
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So, the conversation was shut down because we can't talk about women's bodies,
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no matter what is playing out directly in front of our faces.
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So, the videos like the one I just stitched from her new tour to
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me are not at all surprising.
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In fact, they are the logical conclusion of a culture
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that continues to reward this.
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Or treats it as somehow less urgent of a life-threatening issue than,
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for example, a star who is falling down on stage
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because they are so intoxicated.
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I personally feel at this point buying tickets to a tour like this is
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a little unethical.
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It feels to me more like going to a human zoo than seeing a
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pop star at the top of their game.
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Because you are watching an extremely sick person continue to act
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as if everything is normal.
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But at the end of the day, people can attend whatever they like,
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celebrate whatever they like, continue to normalize whatever they like.
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However, I personally will not have my intelligence insulted
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and be told that I am not seeing what I am very clearly seeing,
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or that it doesn't have massive implications for all of the young women
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and girls who are looking up to this.
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So, enjoy the show, I guess.
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But, as you can see, my sort of larger thesis,
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and this conversation goes very far beyond Ariana Grande,
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although she is obviously one of the um most clear current examples of the
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problem,
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is not even so much the extreme thinness,
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because I think we are at least able at this point to sort of
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acknowledge as a culture
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that thin is back in,
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that extreme thinness is increasingly a problem, that many,
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many of the celebrities and other figures in our public eye, especially women,
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have suddenly gone from being, let's say,
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on the slimmer side to being alarmingly thin right in front of our eyes.
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Another example that I think of a lot
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when I think of this is someone like Demi Moore,
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um who we've seen recently on red carpets looking like this,
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which isn't unusual in itself.
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We're seeing a lot of this,
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but does feel particularly ironic given her role in the movie The Substance,
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which did feel so kind of prescient
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and and thoughtful and critical of this exact kind of dynamic
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that we're now seeing play out in
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so far as women are under an immense,
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immense pressure not only to look beautiful and young and timeless,
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but also to be incredibly, incredibly thin.
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And it's worth noting as a side note that especially as we age,
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being incredibly thin and appearing very youthful are often kind of operating at cross-purposes.
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So, even though it was never easy to fit into beauty standards,
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this particular intersection of beauty standards is is really, really tough.
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But, I say that to say
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that Ariana Grande is by far not the only person
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that we've seen exhibiting a deeply alarming level of thinness in the public eye.
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It's just one that's very much top of people's minds right now,
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not only because the images are coming out from her tour,
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which are frankly quite alarming to see,
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but also because we have the recent memory of,
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as I mentioned in my video,
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the 2-year-long Wicked press tour where many,
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many people were kind of raising these alarm bells
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and were being sort of dismissed
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or told that to speculate on this in any way
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or even to just name what they're seeing is a kind of misogyny.
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Now, the reason for me that this feels this sort of cultural gaslighting,
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this insistence that we not acknowledge what we are obviously seeing happen in front
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of our eyes,
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or framing it as something that it is obviously not,
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to me that feels like a step beyond what I think we're already acknowledging,
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which is that there are these insane unsustainable standards of thinness.
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It's the extra layer of sort of obfuscating
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that and pretending like it's not happening,
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or at least putting social pressure to not acknowledge that it's happening,
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that feels to me even more sinister than usual.
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In preparing for this video,
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I went back and watched some videos of Karen Carpenter,
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who is a figure
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that a lot of people will reference
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when they're talking about cases like Ariana Grande
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because you can sort of put images next to each other on screen
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and see that Ariana Grande is very,
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very similar in appearance, if not sometimes appearing even more thin,
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than Karen Carpenter before she obviously tragically passed away of anorexia nervosa.
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I went back and watched some interviews with her,
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and what was very striking was in several of these interviews,
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the interviewers were very bluntly, and in my opinion,
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really sort of in a very tone-deaf, not compassionate way,
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asking quite openly about her rumored struggles with disordered eating.
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I don't, for the record,
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think that the solution should be we need to be essentially ambushing these celebrities
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on red carpets to ask them why they look the way they do
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or whether or not they have an eating disorder.
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I don't think that that's a better approach.
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I think that that's actually really misunderstands the nature of the illness
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because to ask someone a question like
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that in an interview is is sort of pretending
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as though you're dealing with a rational actor,
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whereas someone who is in the throes of disordered eating is not going to
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be able to admit
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or in many cases doesn't even view themselves necessarily
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as having a problem not dissimilar to things like addiction
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or other mental health issues.
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It did really stand out to me watching some of those interviews
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because I thought about how unthinkable
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that directness,
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that acknowledgement would be in today's media and celebrity culture.
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There's been a lot of discourse about sort of the death of the interview
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and the fact that often now we have celebrities
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and influencers interviewing other celebrities
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and influencers,
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which often sort of avoids anything even remotely approaching an uncomfortable
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or even unexpected question
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and sort of leaving the interview
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as just a essentially a piece of PR for the celebrity.
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And I've been thinking about
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that and I think one of the things
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that is worth noting there is
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that sure,
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sometimes that just makes for really boring
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and flat interviews that don't really feel very interesting.
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In the case of things like a political figure,
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it totally lets them off the hook for what should be really serious issues.
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But in the case of celebrities where they are clearly I mean very very
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sick in front of our eyes.
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I use the term human zoo in my video to describe what I feel
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to be the dynamic of purchasing a ticket to go see someone perform who
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is at that level of visible sickness.
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And I don't use the term lightly.
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I believe that it is a deeply ethically compromised to essentially go
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and cheer on someone who is in the throes of a profound serious illness.
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But, even leaving aside the sort of fan relationship
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and now as we have it,
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the sort of stan relationship where rooting for a celebrity is akin to kind
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of like rooting for a sports team
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and there's not really any sort of nuance
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or or thoughtful criticism in how we relate to people
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that we like,
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which is in many ways I think kind of the flip side of {quote}
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cancel culture,
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which is the {quote} completely uh sort of uncritical,
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unwilling to interrogate culture of just embracing everything a celebrity does no matter how
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uh questionable or problematic
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or harmful to even themselves
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because you've deemed them someone you like.
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I think this can be said, for example,
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about like people's hesitation to be critical of a Taylor Swift, for example,
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despite I I think our knowledge on some level
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that no one is an ethical billionaire.
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It becomes a lot harder to have that sort of thoughtful,
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measured criticism when it's someone for whom you're a fan.
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But, when we're thinking about the media's relationship to someone who is deeply sick,
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which I think is not only a different dynamic,
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but a different level of responsibility than just a fan buying a ticket to
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the show,
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which again, I still think is very,
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very ethically compromised when someone has reached the level of sickness
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that we're currently at.
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And we've seen this with other celebrities, right?
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Celebrities who could barely stand up
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or perform on stage
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because they were so intoxicated.
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I would also think that it is very, sort of, let's say,
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sideshow adjacent to go see that as if it were normal.
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Um so, I I do automatically really side eye that at this point.
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But, when it comes to the media,
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I think part of the reason why our current sort of skinny apocalypse has
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been able to reach the amplitude
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that it has is
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because we do not have a critical
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or even direct relationship with celebrity anymore even
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as the media.
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So, again, when we think about who is interviewing celebrities,
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what questions are we putting forth to them, how are we receiving them?
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If you go back and look at the Wicked press tour,
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it would be absolutely unthinkable for one of the people interviewing these celebrities to
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say,
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"You know, there's been a lot of conversation about you two both looking really,
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really thin and in fact many of the stars of this film franchise looking
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really,
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really thin.
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Can you speak to that?"
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Or something of the like.
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And by the way,
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if there were people asking them those questions on the media tour,
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please link them below.
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I have not seen them.
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Perhaps they exist, but suffice to say, it is very, very,
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very rare to hear those kinds of questions in any kind of media
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or sort of press appearance.
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And so, I do think that on the one hand,
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we have this kind of cultural awareness that people, especially women,
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are suddenly looking extremely thin, it's extremely worrisome.
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In the case of someone like an Ariana Grande for whom there is ample,
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ample documented history of disordered behavior, mental health issues,
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and every reason to suspect
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that this is someone in the potentially terminal stages of the deadliest mental illness.
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We can acknowledge that this is happening, we can write think pieces about it,
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we can make videos about it,
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we can sort of talk about it as a general cultural phenomenon,
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but when it comes to the actual human beings themselves,
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there is still an enormous taboo around acknowledging it directly,
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around naming it for what it is, around saying, "This isn't healthy,
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this isn't normal."
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And that pushback that I mentioned in my video of don't comment on women's
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bodies or she could be healthy
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and we wouldn't know
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or we don't know anything about how she eats,
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I think is actually much more cynical
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and sinister than we give it credit for.
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I am not comfortable saying
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that everyone who invokes
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that language when talking about someone who is very visibly sick is doing
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so to protect their own disordered habits.
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I don't think that's universally true,
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but I do think it is very convenient for people who do not want
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to acknowledge their own unhealthy habits
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or who do not generally want more cultural scrutiny on the issue of someone
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looking that way.
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I think it serves that very cynical purpose.
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I think it's also in the case of someone like an Ariana Grande who
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is a multi-billion dollar industry unto herself,
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very lucrative and let's just say keeps a lot of people employed to intentionally
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look the other way
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and not acknowledge it,
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to pretend like it's not happening.
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Anyone who's seen, for example,
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the Amy Winehouse documentary knows
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that they were throwing her up on
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that stage until literally the day she died.
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And when you watch the last performances that she did,
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it is so clear
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that anyone in her life who truly cared about her would have pulled her
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off that stage.
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And yes, I'm looking at some of her family members there.
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But it was frankly way too profitable to not acknowledge that.
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So I think that there's sort of a few things
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that are coming together here
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that are all kind of They don't necessarily have the same intentions,
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but they are all equally served and benefited by us pretending that A,
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we're not seeing what we're seeing or that B,
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to comment on the body of someone who is actively wasting away in front
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of us is similar to,
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I don't know, for example,
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making fun of a celebrity for having a minor bit of cellulite or having,
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I don't know, breasts that aren't super perky or whatever the case may be.
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And trust me, we do plenty of that.
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But I think it's very disingenuous to not acknowledge
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that these are completely different things.
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And that if we are capable of being honest with ourselves
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as a society about
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and of using some critical thinking
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and of separating things out into their rightful categories,
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that there should be no issue in accurately addressing a not just personal illness,
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but societal illness for what it is.
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Because to be clear, disordered eating and thinness, in addition to being heavily,
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heavily socially valorized, uh is also incredibly contagious and incredibly competitive.
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This is the kind of thing that propagates itself amongst all of the people,
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not just in their personal circles, like we saw in the Wicked tour,
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but also the people watching them at home,
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the people who are looking at those performances over and over,
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studying them because it's their dream to look like
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that and to have
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so many people worried about them.
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And I actually would argue that,
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in terms of downplaying
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and denying the responsibility
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that we have to call this out
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and to name it for what it is,
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is even more dangerous in the case of something like disordered eating
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that results in extreme thinness than,
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for example, things like drug and alcohol addiction uh or other mental illness,
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because unlike other mental health issues, including potentially deadly ones,
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being really thin is heavily socially rewarded.
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The women who are walking runways
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and on the cover of fashion magazines only look slightly less underweight than some
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of these celebrities do.
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So, it is not just disingenuous to pretend
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that it isn't an issue
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that affects well beyond the person who is experiencing it,
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especially if they're, you know, on a massive national or international stage,
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but it's also disingenuous to pretend like this isn't the mental health issue
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that is also the most rewarded by society
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and therefore the most likely to be contagious
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and to be competitive
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and to spread amongst the people,
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not just in their immediate circles, but around them.
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But, I think though,
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in addition to there being a real cynicism
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and a quite sinister agenda in shutting down this conversation
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or gaslighting people into thinking
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that it's somehow misogynist to acknowledge a woman who's dying
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or that it is no different than making fun of someone who you just
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don't think is attractive enough
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or whatever,
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putting those all into the same category,
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I think there's also a few other things
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that absolutely need to be touched on,
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in part because they came up in the comments of the video I made.
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First being, "Oh, well, would you say this about fat person?
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Now, in addition to what we've already acknowledged,
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which is that being extremely thin is heavily socially encouraged,
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so you can't really even compare those two.
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To be underweight is celebrated.
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To be even a little bit overweight, especially if you're a public figure,
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is basically impossible.
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I think we're all pretty familiar by now about how our culture treated Lena
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Dunham for,
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you know, committing the crime of being a size 10
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or whatever on our on our television screens.
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So, I don't even think those two things are comparable.
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We are already constantly castigating overweight
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and and obese people essentially 24/7 for daring to not be skinny.
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Even leaving that aside, though,
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would I say that to identify the problem we are seeing is comparable to,
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I don't know, pointing and laughing at an overweight woman on the street?
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Absolutely not.
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Would I say it's comparable to, I don't know,
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a show like My 600-lb Life,
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which is an extremely popular television show that's been on for like a decade
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plus,
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where people who weigh 600 lbs
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or more or are essentially paraded around on television,
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again, not unlike a human zoo exhibit, and also repeatedly told,
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both in the context of the show and by the viewing audience,
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that they are about to die.
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That is the entire premise of the show.
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TLC as a channel is like largely founded on just pointing at extremely large
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people and saying,
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"Whoa, isn't that crazy?"
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Like, we already do that constantly.
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And I do think it's valid to say some of the people on shows
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like My 600-lb Life are just
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as much at risk
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as someone like an Ariana Grande on those stages.
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In fact, some of the people on those shows have since passed away.
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Also, some of the celebrities who have similarly struggled with eating disorders have passed
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away.
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So, if you're going to compare apples to apples,
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it's not fair to just say, "Oh, I don't know,
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Lizzo or or pre-2023 Meghan Trainor,
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whoever it is you want to talk about,
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who constantly gets made fun of and criticized in the public eye."
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I don't think that's the same
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because I think that you're deliberately taking an extreme example
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and comparing it to one
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that is not extreme.
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But, I understand why people do
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that because they are just never ever going to miss an opportunity to shame
21:21
fat people.
21:22
That's just sort of
21:23
that I don't know at this point I don't
21:25
and I do think by the way like my only other experiences I live
21:28
in France obviously and I will say
21:31
that if America is body negative,
21:34
France is Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome
21:37
and I've heard it on credible authority
21:38
that most other countries beyond America are even more hostile to overweight people.
21:44
So, I'm certainly not here to say that America is the worst offender,
21:48
but definitely America runs no shortage of castigating fat people, especially fat women,
21:54
especially if they're in the public eye.
21:56
So, I really even reject that framing and consider it if anything a distraction.
22:01
I do not think it's fair to compare a situation like Ariana Grande to
22:05
your average person who's like a size 16.
22:08
The other incredibly disingenuous distraction
22:11
that I think gets brought up in this conversation over
22:14
and over again is the GLP-1 issue.
22:16
I have said this a million times, I will say it again.
22:18
I have used in the past a GLP-1.
22:21
I went from basically my entire adult life being a size six roughly to
22:26
gaining a not small amount of weight in a relatively short period of time
22:31
through anxiety-induced binge eating.
22:33
I got up to about a size 10-ish.
22:35
I couldn't wear any of my clothes.
22:37
I felt like It was not a good time of my life.
22:39
I used a GLP-1.
22:40
It's one of the better decisions I think I've ever made for my health.
22:42
It kickstarted so many healthy habits for me
22:45
and even after going off of them for quite some time,
22:48
I found that I just like did not restart those bad habits.
22:51
Your mileage may vary.
22:53
I've made an entire full-length video about this
22:55
and also a video about it on my TikTok where I go into great
22:57
detail.
22:58
I, to be honest,
22:59
did not want to make those videos
23:01
because I understand that the second I am open about the fact
23:03
that I have used a GLP-1
23:05
that it invites all kinds of insane criticism.
23:08
Like the the number of times I've been called fat phobic
23:10
because I admitted to the fact
23:13
that I would rather not have to buy an entirely new wardrobe
23:17
and just try to wean myself off of my at the time horrible food
23:21
habits and get back into a body
23:23
that I personally felt comfortable
23:24
and active in is neither here nor there.
23:28
I was honest about it
23:29
because I believe in transparency
23:30
and I didn't want anyone to speculate on something
23:33
and wonder why things seemed maybe relatively easy for me
23:36
when it wasn't for them.
23:37
When not only do I generally believe in transparency,
23:40
but these are also subjects that we've covered multiple times on the channel.
23:42
So it would be very hypocritical of me not to be open about them
23:46
even though just like with talking about money
23:48
that means fielding some criticisms.
23:50
I honestly don't care what you think about my decision to use a GLP-1.
23:53
It really doesn't matter to me.
23:55
I'm just saying it for the sake of honesty and you know,
23:59
some sense of values in this constant hall of mirrors gaslighting nonsense
24:04
that is our relationship to you know,
24:07
appearance and weight and all of these things.
24:09
But I also, if we're going to talk about what we know to be
24:12
common sense versus what we can easily see to be gaslighting,
24:17
is that I actually don't think it is the same thing for,
24:20
I don't know, a person who has diabetes
24:22
or a person who's been heavily overweight their whole life
24:24
and wants help losing it.
24:25
Or a person like myself who went from one size to another size
24:29
and then back to the size she's always been,
24:31
has never even been close to underweight her entire life including
24:34
while using a GLP-1.
24:36
I don't think those are the same things
24:38
as someone intentionally using a GLP-1 to facilitate an eating disorder.
24:43
If anything, if we're really going to play the ED card,
24:46
I use mine to help stop disordered behavior because yes,
24:48
although it is often not thought of as such,
24:51
binge eating is also a form of disordered eating
24:53
and for many of us Uh understand
24:56
that compulsive eating especially for certain foods,
24:59
that it can be just
25:00
as debilitating and can really consume our mental health just like any other type
25:04
of more restrictive disorder can.
25:05
What I'm trying to say in this is
25:07
that throwing out the distraction of "Hey,
25:10
but GLP-1s as if those are not incredibly life-changing for the positive medication for
25:16
millions of people around the world
25:18
and are also perfectly able to be used in a healthy,
25:22
sustainable way and also help many people break out of disordered habits rather than
25:27
get into them,
25:28
to make that the culprit just because some people are abusing them,
25:32
I find to be deeply, deeply unfair and also, again, in my opinion,
25:37
rather cynical.
25:39
Because there are plenty of people who take mental health drugs
25:41
or pain medication or all kinds of other pills in a safe,
25:45
sustainable, healthy, doctor-recommended and followed way.
25:48
There are also plenty of people who abuse those prescription medications,
25:52
use them to get high, completely derail their life with those medications.
25:55
Does it mean that they should be completely forbidden or illegal?
25:58
I would argue no.
25:59
Does it also mean
26:00
that those medications are inherently unethical
26:02
because some people abuse them?
26:04
No.
26:04
As I've also said in other videos,
26:05
these disorders have existed well before the prevalence of GLP-1s and will exist,
26:10
I'm sure, long after them if they ever fall out of common use.
26:14
But whether it's what about fat people
26:17
or what about GLP-1s
26:18
or what about this,
26:19
that, and the other, all of these to me feel like extreme distractions.
26:24
Because as I said in the very beginning,
26:26
when I went back
26:27
and watched some of the conversation around Karen Carpenter at the time,
26:31
this is not to be like a boomer take of like, "Wow,
26:33
everything was so much better before.
26:35
We We just We had it so much more together as a society."
26:38
But I do think
26:39
that there was like a little bit less of the simultaneous hyper-awareness of all
26:45
of the problems of our society
26:47
and a complete inability to talk about them honestly.
26:51
When it comes to the absolute epidemic of women being dangerously thin in the
26:57
public eye,
26:58
we're all able to say that this is a problem.
27:00
Yet, relatively few people will then go the extra step and say,
27:04
"And these are people who are deeply suffering from that problem,
27:08
and we should probably not support them financially
27:10
while they are actively putting their life at risk every day.
27:13
We should probably not normalize that.
27:15
We should probably not endorse that."
27:17
In my opinion, if we were more capable of directly confronting these issues,
27:22
including in things like interviews.
27:24
And again, no one needs to be doing it in the insanely tone-deaf way
27:28
of some of these Karen Carpenter interviews.
27:30
But if we could even acknowledge it up front, or like for example,
27:33
certain publications will say,
27:34
"We are not going to run an extremely dangerously underweight person in our magazine
27:39
or on our cover.
27:39
We're not going to have them on our show.
27:41
We're not going to promote their projects."
27:43
If that were more normalized, or if more people were to say,
27:46
"I'm actually not going to buy a ticket to the to the concert
27:51
or the show or the movie of someone who is,
27:53
again, not just genuinely and actively harming themselves,
27:57
but also making that harm seem more normal and aspirational to the countless,
28:02
especially young women and little girls who are watching it.
28:06
Like, if it were more acceptable to not just be honest about the problem,
28:11
but to be honest about when and where we see it happening.
28:14
In my view, the best outcome with this Ariana Grande situation would have been
28:18
that after the Wicked tour,
28:20
there would have been enough clear-eyed, honest cultural conversation about this,
28:25
enough pushback in the media, enough pushback from fans,
28:28
that we would not be putting this on stage
28:30
so that people can come
28:32
and watch an extremely sick person half-heartedly dance around for 2 hours.
28:36
We would not have even put this show on,
28:39
and this person would be probably an inpatient treatment in the hospital,
28:44
or at least with loved ones out of the public eye,
28:46
where they are not constantly making this seem normal and acceptable and even beautiful.
28:51
As I said at the beginning of this video,
28:52
I think that we are in a very,
28:54
very scary moment for feminism
28:56
because not only do we have the problems
28:59
that we've always had,
29:00
the impossible standards to live up to,
29:02
the extreme thinness coupled with the extreme youth culture,
29:05
all of these things
29:06
that have always existed
29:07
and probably will always exist to some extent
29:10
and or I don't know,
29:11
let's let's assume we'll maybe have some sort of like post-beauty standard utopia at
29:15
some point.
29:15
But either way, on top of all of the things
29:16
that have always been a problem,
29:18
we've now figured out how to weaponize extremely strategic
29:22
and cynical social justice language
29:24
or feminist language to pretend
29:26
as if even acknowledging these problems
29:28
that,
29:29
to be clear, affect all of us as we watch them,
29:31
is somehow bigoted or misogynist or at minimum insensitive.
29:36
That's a really crucial difference, right?
29:38
We not only now are watching people be sick in public,
29:41
we can't even say that they're sick because that makes us the bad person.
29:45
I personally reject this.
29:47
I also personally reject the distraction
29:50
that you can't be extremely critical of this being put on a world tour
29:55
for people to buy tickets to
29:57
and still think it's bad to make fun of random people's appearances
30:00
or that those are even the same things.
30:02
I I personally reject that framing.
30:05
I also reject the framing
30:06
that if you correctly identify
30:08
that some of these celebrities are actively killing themselves
30:12
that you should just
30:12
then go out and make fun of a random overweight person for being overweight.
30:16
reject the idea that just
30:18
because GLP-1s now are one of many things
30:21
that are being used to facilitate disordered eating
30:23
that that means all GLP-1s are bad
30:25
or anyone who's used them is part of disordered eating culture
30:28
or whatever the case may be,
30:30
I reject all of these things.
30:32
I don't know if
30:33
that makes me woke
30:34
or not woke or like where I fall on the spectrum.
30:37
I don't care anymore, frankly.
30:39
I don't actually care what the politically correct opinion to have on this issue
30:45
is.
30:45
I just know that
30:47
when I open my TikTok
30:48
and I see Ariana Grande looking frankly terrifying,
30:54
I say to myself,
30:55
I don't know how parents of daughters are doing it right now knowing
30:59
that their little girls are going to open up their phones
31:02
and see this.
31:02
Like, that is terrifying to me
31:05
that one of the biggest pop stars in the world who's on one of
31:08
probably going to be the biggest tours of the decade right now looks like
31:12
that,
31:12
is in that position.
31:13
Not only is no one in the media really directly talking about this,
31:17
but also we have found a way even amongst the everyday fans to shut
31:22
down any conversation about this
31:24
and to do it
31:25
while feeling morally superior.
31:27
That to me is an incredibly scary moment in our culture.
31:31
It's an incredibly scary moment for quote-unquote feminism, whatever's left of it.
31:35
And as I say in the video,
31:36
an incredibly scary moment for our collective intelligence.
31:40
I will not have my collective intelligence insulted.
31:43
I will not not acknowledge this for what it is.
31:47
Sorry if this offends,
31:48
but also not that sorry
31:50
because I do fear
31:51
that for a lot of you people will have to start dying for you
31:54
to wake up and even
31:56
then it won't be enough.
31:57
Even then it won't be enough.
31:59
You will still play these rhetorical games
32:01
and you will still hide behind this nonsense.
32:03
Not on this channel though.
32:04
All right, I got to get ready.
32:05
We're filming all day tomorrow.
32:07
See you around the channel.
32:08
Stay safe.
32:09
I'm sure these comments will be completely normal.
32:11
Bye.
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