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What Happens When Science Clashes with the Public?: Crash Course Scientific Thinking #7
What Happens When Science Clashes with the Public?: Crash Course Scientific Thinking #7
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Smoking causes cancer.
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I know that; you know that; and the tobacco industry definitely knows that.
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But not all that long ago,
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you couldn’t even watch Saturday morning cartoons without being bombarded with messages
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that cigarettes aren’t that bad for you.
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Tobacco companies ran ads in magazines
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and periodicals saying that “numerous scientists” question smoking’s risks,
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that there are “many possible causes of lung cancer,”
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and that there’s “no proof
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that cigarette smoking is one of.”
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So, if you had been there:
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How would you have figured out what was true?
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Hi!
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I'm Hank Green, and this is Crash Course Scientific Thinking.
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Before scientific knowledge reaches people like you and me, it takes a long,
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arduous journey.
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And big stretches of it are dedicated to collecting, testing, and scrutinizing empirical evidence,
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information collected through rigorous scientific methods that either support or refute an idea.
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The vast majority of scientific progress hums along quietly,
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its evidence becoming widely accepted without much hullaballoo.
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You won’t hear pundits debate whether carbon has six protons,
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and there won’t be dramatic headlines about the mating behaviour of sea slugs.
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Though I, for one, definitely would, and do, read those articles.
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But here’s the thing.
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Sometimes, science produces a nugget of knowledge that resists the status quo.
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It challenges an economic system, or a hierarchy,
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or a choice people make in their lives.
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And when it lands with the public, tensions can flair.
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Which is what happened in 1964 with smoking.
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So, in this episode, we’re gonna do two things: first,
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we’ll peel back the curtain on how the scientific process pieced together evidence about
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the risks of smoking.
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And then we’ll unpack why
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that knowledge got so much pushback
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—and what we can learn from the tale about the public consumption of science
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news.
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At the beginning of the 20th century, lung cancer was so rare,
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doctors treated cases of it like once-in-a-lifetime learning opportunities.
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But then, in the 1920s and ‘30s, lung cancer rates started to spike,
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and scientists began working to figure out why.
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There were a lot of early ideas about the possible cause.
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Maybe it was atmospheric pollution or newly paved roads.
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Maybe it was X-rays, poison gas from World War I,
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or the after-effects of the 1918 flu pandemic.
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Those were all correlations, but as we learned in an earlier episode,
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correlation doesn’t mean causation.
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So over two decades,
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scientists tested different explanations and shared the results with each other.
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Each study was like a pebble added to a pile of evidence.
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Scientists had to weigh that evidence by examining each study skeptically,
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and asking things like: “How well was the study designed?”
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“Did it find a strong or weak relationship to lung cancer?”
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And “How directly did the methods actually get at the question they were trying
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to answer?”
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For some explanations, no evidence emerged.
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You’re off the hook, flu.
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But eventually, four main lines of evidence pointed to one suspect.
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Exhibit A: Observational studies
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which had followed groups of people over a period of time showed
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that smokers developed lung cancer at higher rates than non-smokers.
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But there were other factors in people’s lives
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that could be affecting cancer rates,
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so these studies alone weren’t enough.
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Enter Exhibit B: Experimental studies were done on mice—
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because you can better control conditions in a lab.
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And mice exposed to tobacco developed tumors.
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But how?
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What actually happens when lungs are exposed to smoke?
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Exhibit C: Further studies showed
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that cigarette smoke destroys cilia— the tiny structures in lungs
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that keep out bad stuff.
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And finally, Exhibit D:
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Tobacco smoke itself contains a chemical compound
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that was previously shown to cause cancer in people exposed to coal tar.
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All of that evidence, when weighed collectively, began to tip the scales!
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By the late 1950s, scientists had reached a consensus widespread agreement,
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given all of the evidence— that smoking was the leading cause of lung cancer.
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So in 1964 the U.S.
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Surgeon General — himself a smoker — announced to reporters that cigarettes cause lung cancer.
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But for the public, that message got drowned out by a lot of noise.
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So, let’s rewind the tape.
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And this time, let’s look at what was going on in the public view.
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Even in the 1930s, people suspected smoking wasn’t exactly great for you.
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But tobacco companies worked to stay ahead of the narrative:
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boasting that their cigarettes were healthier, safer, gentler, “fresh as mountain air.”
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The RJ Reynolds Tobacco Company ran ads citing “studies”
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that claimed “More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette.”
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And you want to know how they got that statistic?
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By giving doctors free Camel cigarettes,
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and then asking them what kind of cigarettes they smoked.
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I mean, come on.
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By the 1950s, tobacco companies knew about the mounting scientific evidence.
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But they were still invested in selling their product.
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So they changed the message.
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Instead of “Our cigarettes are better for you,” the ads became “We don’t know
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yet if cigarettes are bad for you.”
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And by doing so, they manufactured a controversy that didn’t actually exist.
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This is where things get wild.
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In 1954, a committee called the Tobacco Industry Research Committee
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which was formed by the tobacco companies
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released a statement claiming the link between smoking and lung cancer wasn’t settled,
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and they would be “researching” the issue themselves.
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These people would have thrived on social media.
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This went on for decades, long after the scientific consensus had been settled.
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The tobacco industry distracted from smoking’s harms by funding
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and publicizing research looking into alternative explanations for lung cancer.
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They suppressed and criticized studies that found smoking was bad for you.
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And all the while they publicly denied that smoking was risky or addictive,
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and blasted ads that made cigarettes seem as enticing as possible.
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They did all of this knowingly and strategically, to keep making money.
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A 1969 internal memo at the tobacco company Brown & Williamson stated:
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“Doubt is our product since it is the best means of competing with the
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'body of fact' that exists in the mind of the general public.
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It is also the means of establishing a controversy.”
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Wow, they just said it.
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And selling that doubt worked.
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The tobacco industry preyed upon people’s cognitive biases
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those predictable patterns our brains tend to take
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that can sway us away from accepting valid information,
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especially when it challenges something we already do or think.
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The news that smoking causes cancer just didn’t vibe with a world where smoking
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was common,
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widely accepted, and everybody did it.
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Doctors!
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Astronauts!
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Movie stars!
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Plus, cigarettes are highly addictive.
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When you’re addicted to something,
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you pay more attention to reasons to keep doing that thing.
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And the tobacco industry was willing to give smokers those reasons,
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even though the reasons were made up.
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They systematically attacked the widely accepted scientific explanation in order to sow doubt among
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the public.
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But here’s what finally turned the tide against smoking.
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In the 1990s, scientists uncovered evidence of exactly how cigarette smoke can trigger a
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normal cell to become a cancerous cell.
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Then, in 1998, a major settlement required the tobacco industry to pay up billions
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of dollars for the damage they had caused.
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The writing was on the wall.
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But the tobacco industry still tried to spin the narrative!
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The message this time?
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They claimed they’d always been transparent about the risks of smoking
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and said that it had always been an individual’s choice to take those risks.
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Which brings me to another common point of tension
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that can make scientific knowledge seem controversial— sometimes scientific knowledge clashes with people’s values.
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There’s stuff science can tell us like,
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the precise mechanism that causes a cell to become cancerous,
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or how much smoking increases your individual risk of developing cancer.
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But science can’t tell us what to do with that knowledge.
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It’s on us
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as individuals and as societies— to decide what to do now
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that we know what we know.
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For example: in the early 2000s,
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as the dangers of secondhand smoke became more widely known,
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many cities and states began banning smoking in public places.
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Not everybody agreed with the move, but the disagreement wasn’t over the science.
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It was about how that knowledge should mesh with values.
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What’s more important?
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A person’s freedom to make their own choices, with their own body?
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Or a person’s freedom to protect their body from the choices someone else is
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making?
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Science can’t answer those questions.
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And I can’t answer these questions for you.
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So you might be wondering: why did I even tell you all of this?
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You can think of the war over smoking as a kind of fable.
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It’s a story that can teach us something,
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like “The Tortoise and the Hare,”
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or “The Boy Who Cried Wolf,” except it really happened.
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And there are three lessons we can take away from this story
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that can help us navigate the wilderness where science
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and public opinion meet.
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First, follow the scientific consensus.
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When a certain idea is backed by broad agreement among experts,
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it has already cleared an extraordinarily high bar of skepticism.
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I trust the experts for a reason.
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Like, when I notice an electrical outlet is broken,
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I could try to fix it myself.
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But I’ll—at best—spend much more time trying
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and do a much shabbier job than an electrician would.
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At worst, I’ll look like this.
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The same is true with science.
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You'll have better information
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and get better outcomes
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when you trust the process of science.
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So when there is scientific consensus, pay attention to it.
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Second, when there isn’t yet consensus,
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we should be skeptical of science-related claims we encounter,
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and keep in mind that a single study doesn’t settle anything.
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The studies we do hear about the ones that make headlines
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are the ones that have a surprising or attention-grabbing angle.
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But a single study is just one pebble of evidence on the pile.
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You should look to what other experts say about it,
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to understand how that study compares to the rest of the evidence,
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and how much it actually changes what we know.
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Third, in science, “challenging”
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or “debating” an idea has a very different meaning than it often has in
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everyday life.
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Even with a strong consensus,
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not every scientist agrees on every detail of an issue.
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But scientists don’t hold evidence back,
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or try to keep other scientists from finding the flaws in their argument.
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They put it all on the table.
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They share everything they know, all of the evidence, in good faith,
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so that their ideas can be challenged well.
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That’s the whole point!
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See kids, if you like arguing you can make a whole career of it!
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Sage, I don’t think you were scheduled for today.
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I just had to say goodbye to the people, Hank!
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It’s been a pleasure to have you along, Sage.
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Oh I’ll be back… Is that a teaser?
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It might be...
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Bye people.
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Hope you enjoyed your Sage Advice.
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Thanks Sage.
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There are times when scientific knowledge seems controversial to the public eye,
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but actually isn’t controversial among the experts who know it best.
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That’s why the “argument”
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that smoking causes cancer wasn’t just an opinion among other opinions.
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Often, when a scientific idea sparks controversy among the public,
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it’s because it challenges our biases, our values, or powerful interests.
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Scientific consensus is so impactful because it happens independent of those external considerations.
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And it’s why science, the process,
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is so powerful at helping us become less wrong over time.
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As we wrap up this series, I’ll leave you with this:
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When we recognize how science really works, the world makes so much more sense.
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We can be skeptical of individual studies, yet place trust in the collective process.
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We can appreciate the long journey an idea takes before it becomes widely accepted
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knowledge,
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yet be open to ideas changing with new evidence.
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And we know that if an idea is wrong,
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there’s a good chance scientists will find out.
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From all of us here at Crash Course, thanks for watching.
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This episode of Crash Course Scientific Thinking was produced in partnership with HHMI BioInteractive,
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bringing real science stories to thousands of high school and undergrad life science classrooms.
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If you’re a teacher,
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visit their website for resources
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that explore the topics we discussed in the video today.
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Thanks for watching this episode of Crash Course Scientific Thinking
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which was filmed in Missoula,
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Montana, and made with the help of all these nice people.
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