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Two Ways To Film The Same Scene (#1)
Two Ways To Film The Same Scene (#1)
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so if you wanted to see how film making has changed over the years
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ideally what you'd want is for two movies made decades apart to have the
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exact same scene you'd want the first movie from say 1940
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and the second almost 60 years later in 1998 well
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as luck would have it that's exactly what we have right here on the
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left erns Lu's classic romantic comedy the shop around the corner starring Jimmy Stewart
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and Margaret Sullivan and on the right Nora Efron's 1998 remake You've Got Mail
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starring Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan actually both of these movies were based on
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the 1937 Hungarian play parfumery
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which was also made into a movie musical starring Judy Garland in 1949
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and a Broadway musical in 1963 the reason for this many adaptations is
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because the plot is perfect for romantic comedy two people become Anonymous pen pals
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and gradually fall in love
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but unbeknown to them they actually know each other in real life
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and don't get along at all they basically despise each other on the day
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the pen pals finally agree to meet at a cafe the man who gets
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their second sees through the window
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that his beloved is actually his real life antagonist
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and because of this doesn't reveal his true identity this imbalance of knowledge makes
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for a marvelous scene of dramatic irony creating a tension
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that is at once heart-wrenching
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and hilarious are you deliberately trying to spoil my evening why do you want
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to do me harm why do you hate me
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so I don't hate you oh I suppose you love me well why should
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I what have you done to make me love you well I don't want
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you to love me I don't all the film adaptations of the play have
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this scene the cafe scene
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and they all play out in pretty much the same way how the versions
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differ is in the film language used to Stage the scene
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that language tells you something about the director's Vision
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but it also tells you something thing about the conventions of different eras of
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movie making leaving aside the musical let's compare the 1940
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and 1998 versions and they are comparable
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as they cover the same beats
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and are roughly the same length the shop around the corners Cafe scene is
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8 minutes and 19 seconds long
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and you've got M's Cafe scene is 9 minutes
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and 43 seconds the first
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and most important thing to notice the thing
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that other differences spring from is the number of shots used to cover the
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scene in 1940 lubit filmed the cafe scene in just 19 shots in comparison
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Nora Effron 58 years later used 133 shots for the same material
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that is of course a massive difference the average shot length in the earlier
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version is a whopping 26.2 seconds
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while in You've Got Mail the average shot length is just 4.4 seconds
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so where do these 114 extra shots come from
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and you've got mail well let's look at the setup of this scene
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when the man and his friend arrive at the cafe
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and look through the window for the pen pal in shop around the corner
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luit lets it play in one unbroken medium two shot Efron on the other
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hand opts for shot reverse shot cutting back
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and forth from the man to his friend it's the same throughout the entire
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scene lubit prefers long two shots
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while Efron goes for shot reverse now one of these techniques is not necessarily
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better or worse than the other both have their advantages shot reverse shot for
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example gives a director greater control of pacing in the editing phase
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and it lets you use different takes
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and different framings like close-ups to fine-tune the emotional Arc of the scene long
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two shots on the other hand tie the editor's hands
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but they convey a palpable sense of time
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and space especially the space between the actors every action
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and reaction in a twoot is is real lubit
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and Efron of course had personal reasons for their shot selections
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but those choices also reflect the times films of the 20s
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and 30s and 40s have much longer shots on average than films of the
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'90s or 2000s now there are a lot of reasons for this
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but it's partly due to the influence of other media on Cinema early film
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making techniques were influenced by the conventions of stage plays where many filmmakers began
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their careers audien were used to being their own editors choosing where to look
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in the frame and
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when films of the ' 80s
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and '90s were influenced by music videos
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and commercials which increased viewer tolerance for more rapid editing it's tempting to say
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this change reflects a shortening of attention spans
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but human attention like Cinema is structured by The Wider world the sheer amount
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of information people were expected to consume
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and digest increased enor ously from 1940 to 1998
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so information was condensed into shorter faster units hurry hurry hurry
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and this seeps into everything including our movies
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and their language this is obviously not to say there are no long takes
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in modern movies but I think it is true
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that long takes especially static long takes stand out to us in a way
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that they didn't in 1940 they feel like an aesthetic Choice rather than the
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invisible Norm they challenge us they challenge
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that anxious feeling way down deep in us
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which grows the longer
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and longer they go on
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that we're not getting enough information for our time
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which is a shame I mean this is not a video disparaging Nora Efron
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who I think is a really good filmmaker
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and a great writer
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but I do believe
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that the lubit version of the cafe scene augments the material more a two
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shot like this for example visualizes the imbalance of knowledge
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that Jimmy Stewart knows more than Margaret Sullivan
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and long static takes make even the smallest camera movements incredibly impactful with only
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19 shots every one counts lubit does use shot reverse shot
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but only when it will sink deepest
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and do the most damage you know people seldom go to the trouble of
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scratching the surface of things to find the inner truth well I really wouldn't
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get as scratch your surface Mr Crowley
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because I know exactly what I'd find instead of a heart a handbag instead
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of a soul or suitcase
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and instead of an intellect a cigarette lighter
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which doesn't work by the time we get to the same moment
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and you've got mail we've already been in shot reverse shot for a
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while and the lines don't nearly hit
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as hard could discover a lot of things
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if you really knew me
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if I really knew you I know what I would find instead of a
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brain a cash register instead of a heart a bottom line you know in
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my opinion movies haven't gotten better
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or worse over time they've just changed mirroring the ways
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that we've become more sophisticated
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and Visually literate busier savier in some ways more jaded in many ways more
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thoughtful but there are unique things about the early Decades of Cinema
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that can't really be replicated today things
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that were sad to lose the good news is
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that these movies still exist
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and the holiday season is a great excuse to watch one
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so if you're looking for something special to watch with the family this year
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let this video be my recommendation 1940s the shop around the corner by erns
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lubich a movie that's of its time in its construction
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but Timeless in its appeal enjoy hey everybody happy holidays
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and thank you so much for watching I just noticed no
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