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4 Types of Overthinking and How to Stop Them - Worry, Intrusive Thoughts, Rumination, Over-Analyzing
4 Types of Overthinking and How to Stop Them - Worry, Intrusive Thoughts, Rumination, Over-Analyzing
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Everyone hates how overthinking makes them feel,
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but most people struggle to stop doing it.
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And that's because your brain secretly believes that overthinking is protecting you.
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So, let's talk about four types of overthinking
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and four psychological skills to train your brain to quiet down.
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Okay.
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The four types of overthinking are worry, intrusive thoughts, overplanning or overanalyzing, and rumination.
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So, let's start with worry.
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Worry is the fuel of anxiety disorders.
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Worry is where you're constantly thinking about what could go wrong in the future.
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And worry turns on chronic stress in the body.
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Even though nothing bad is currently happening, worry triggers the perception of danger.
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And when your brain thinks about danger,
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it triggers that same physiological response as a low-level threat,
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turning on stress hormones like cortisol and adrenaline.
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And chronic stress can have damaging effects on your health, your sleep, your energy,
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your mood, your blood sugar, your appetite, all sorts of things.
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So even though your body doesn't like how worry impacts you,
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your brain thinks that it has to keep worrying.
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You see, when you worry about something catastrophic happening,
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and then the catastrophic thing doesn't happen,
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your brain does some brain math and thinks, "Phew,
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all that worrying kept my human alive.
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I've got to do that again so that she doesn't die again."
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And the cycle of worry just triggers over and over.
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So, here's the skill.
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Stop it.
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Okay, just kidding.
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Most people have tried to just stop.
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It doesn't work.
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Our brain actually doesn't know how to do subtractive commands.
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It rarely works to tell your brain to stop thinking about a delicious,
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mouthwatering cheesecake or a pink elephant, right?
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Don't think about that.
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The skill, it just doesn't work.
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So, here's the real skill.
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Scheduled worry.
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You tell your brain when to worry.
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Every day at a regular time, like 5:00 PM,
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you're going to sit down for 20 minutes and worry on paper.
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Write it down.
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Your brain and body are actually really capable of handling acute stress.
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Stress that comes in short bursts.
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Instead of worrying a little bit throughout the whole day,
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which keeps the stress response high,
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you're going to train your brain to worry each day at a certain time.
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If you catch yourself worrying during the rest of the day,
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you just tell your mind, "We'll worry about that at 5:00 PM."
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Now, I think it's really helpful for the first couple of weeks of doing
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this to set a mindfulness bell on your phone.
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The chime helps you check in
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and see if you're slipping into worry throughout the day without realizing it.
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So the bell dings, you check your thoughts.
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You realize, "Ooh, I'm worrying."
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And then you say, "Brain, we'll do that at 5:00 PM today."
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Okay, so there's the first skill with worry.
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Do scheduled worry and a mindfulness bell to catch yourself and redirect.
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If you do this for a month,
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you will retrain your brain to worry much, much less.
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I think this can reduce anxiety by 80%.
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Okay, now let's talk about intrusive thoughts or unwanted thoughts.
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Intrusive thoughts are super common.
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Large studies with thousands of participants have found
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that 95% or more of people experience unwanted
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or intrusive thoughts.
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These commonly include scary thoughts like, "What if I hurt someone else?
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What if I do something sexually inappropriate?
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What if I swerve into traffic?
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What if I don't really love my partner?
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What if I touch some bad germs?
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What if I lose control?"
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Almost everyone has these thoughts.
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But there's a clear difference between all those people who have intrusive thoughts
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and those thoughts don't bother them
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and those who develop problems like OCD
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or anxiety around them.
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The people who handle them well brush them off.
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They're like, "Oh, that was weird.
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Oh well."
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And they go back to doing what they were doing.
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The people who struggle struggle against them.
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They try to fight their brain
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or reason with it
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or force themselves to not think about it.
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Or they do a safety behavior to avoid engaging in that dangerous thought.
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Now, the more you try to prove these thoughts wrong,
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the more your brain flags them as important.
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When we believe a thought is dangerous,
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when we think that a thought will harm us or make us take action,
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we accidentally show our brain that the thought is actually dangerous,
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which it is not.
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And that tells our brain to make it louder.
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When we fear, avoid, argue with, or debate,
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or even believe these thoughts and take an action to avoid them,
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our brain makes them louder.
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When we do safety behaviors like avoiding driving
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or avoiding cutting meat
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or avoiding touching stuff,
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and we don't die, our brain accidentally learns, "See, those thoughts really were dangerous.
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I better make my human more anxious
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and pay more attention to those intrusive thoughts."
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So, here's the skill.
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It's called cognitive defusion.
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Label your mind as a word machine.
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And when you notice an intrusive thought, say, "Thank you, brain, for that thought.
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Thanks for trying to keep me safe.
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I'm good."
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You notice it, you name it.
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That's an intrusive thought.
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And if it keeps yelling that something bad is going to happen,
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just say maybe, maybe not.
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Don't do the safety behavior.
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Redirect your attention just back to the present moment.
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Okay?
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This trains your brain because then when you don't die,
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it trains your brain to not be so anxious about these thoughts.
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Okay, there's a few other ways to practice cognitive diffusion.
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You can sing the thought in a ridiculous voice over and over.
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Um, you could imagine the thought as a part and give it a name,
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like, "Oh, there's negative Nancy again."
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Or, "There's Bob.
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He's always worried."
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If you feel stuck believing that thoughts are actually dangerous,
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then I'd encourage you to work with an OCD trained therapist who can help
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you practice noticing your thoughts
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and not acting on them,
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not doing the safety behavior.
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So, this looks like someone who has the thought, what if I cut someone,
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going to therapy, and holding a knife and not cutting someone?
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Right?
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As you practice this, you'll show your brain that thoughts are just thoughts.
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Your mind is a word machine.
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Thank you for those thoughts.
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Let's move on.
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Right?
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That's what you're teaching your brain.
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And when we show our brain by not avoiding those thoughts
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or arguing with those thoughts
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that you also don't die,
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your brain learns those thoughts aren't
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that important and it dials down the intensity on them.
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Okay.
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I've made a bunch of videos on cognitive diffusion
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and we also have an entire course on how to overcome intrusive thoughts
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and I'll just make sure
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and link those below
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if you'd like to learn more.
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Okay.
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Number three.
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Do you find yourself going over every possible scenario,
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trying to plan to make everything perfect?
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Like, oh, I need to get this exactly right.
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Overplanning is when your brain runs scenarios, makes lists, rewrites messages,
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and tries to avoid mistakes.
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Now, your brain is trying to control outcomes so that nothing goes wrong.
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If I say it just right, no one will be upset.
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If I plan this trip perfectly, nothing will go wrong.
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If I analyze enough, I won't get hurt.
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Now, the brain likes this because it does two things.
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It pretends that it can control everything.
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And this is a great way to limit anxiety in the short term
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because it feels like you're actually in control.
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And two, intellectualizing is a great way to avoid emotions.
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Analyzing is so much more comfortable than being present with your uncertainty
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or vulnerability or fear
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or hurt.
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So, strangely, I consider intellectualizing as a form of emotionality.
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You're secretly running from your emotions by thinking about them instead.
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This is one of my favorite ways to pretend
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that I'm dealing with my problems by avoiding them.
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Okay?
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When we over plan, overanalyze, we're seeking to manage our anxiety,
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our uncertainty by controlling the outcome,
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by by making sure that we never mess up,
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by guaranteeing that the trip goes perfectly.
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And this accidentally shows our brain
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that we are fragile
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and can't handle it
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if things don't go smoothly.
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If we want to regain power over our anxiety,
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we have to transition from control to trust.
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From controlling outside circumstances to trusting
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that we can handle it
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when things don't go smoothly.
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We're putting all this effort into controlling the outside stuff, how people see us,
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how comfortable our life is,
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but we're accidentally training our brain to be less secure on the inside.
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Now, here's the thing.
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We can't just tell our brain to chill out.
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We have to show it by taking action, noticing things not going perfectly,
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and then surviving.
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Then our brain learns through experience that we can handle it.
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Let me give you an example.
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For years, I've tried to manage social situations to make sure
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that people don't dislike me.
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I've hidden what I really think.
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I've masked what I really like.
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And I've tried not to say stuff that might be offensive.
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But little by little, as I've grown,
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I've started being more authentic and I've focused more on saying things like,
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"I can handle it if people don't like me."
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Being on YouTube has helped me practice that one.
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First rule of the internet, do not read the comments.
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But I do read the comments and that's okay, right?
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I have other mantras that help like it's okay if I'm not perfect.
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I can feel anxious and do it anyway.
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I can practice going with the flow.
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I've focused more on embracing my inner experience
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and showing courage to my inner anxiety than on manipulating the external world to
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make me comfortable.
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Last fall, I went to Harvard to be on a panel for this summit.
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And I had the goal not to say something stupid.
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And guess what happened?
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I accidentally did.
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In a panel discussion about content creation,
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I said the algorithm is not inherently biased.
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And I was quickly informed that it actually is.
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I had a blind spot
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and they let me know in a rather public way
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and I was super duper embarrassed.
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I wanted to run away.
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I wanted to hide my face and never see any of them again.
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But instead, I handled it better than ever.
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I reminded myself, okay, it's okay if I'm not perfect.
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I stayed present.
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I connected with people.
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I learned more about things I didn't know.
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And I was gentle with myself.
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Mistakes are human and I stayed with it.
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I sat with it.
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Now, I haven't done a lot of public speaking,
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but what I learned from this experience is
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that I can handle my own feelings
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when I'm not perfect.
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I actually came away
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so much more confident
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because I no longer have a rule
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that I have to handle things perfectly
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or else it's the end of the world.
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And now I believe like I can show up authentically, offer what I have,
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be imperfect, and I can handle that discomfort.
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I feel much more confident
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because I'm letting go of
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that control a little bit.
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I can trust myself to handle big feelings like embarrassment when things aren't perfect.
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Okay, so here's the skill.
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Focus on building up trust, not control.
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Trust in yourself that you can handle it.
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And the way our brains work is you can't just tell your brain to
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do this.
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Your brain is like a child, right?
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They learn more from what you do than from what you say.
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You have to show your brain
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that you can handle uncertainty by doing something imperfectly.
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So, there's a few ways to practice this.
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Go on a spontaneous trip without having every detail figured out.
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On purpose, say something silly in a social setting
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and watch how people don't actually care.
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Make a beautiful piece of art and add an intentional flaw.
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Publish a video to YouTube that isn't perfect.
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Watch yourself and the anxiety you feel around it and just say something like,
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"I am getting so good at being imperfect.
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I'm getting so good at tolerating uncertainty.
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I can do hard things.
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Today is a great day to feel a little discomfort.
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Over time, your anxiety will decrease and so will your need to overthink, overplan,
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and be so dang perfect.
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Okay, let me give you one more example.
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This guy, Jia, practiced desensitizing himself to rejection by intentionally getting rejected every day
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for 100 days.
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Day two, request a burger refill. this where I finished uh went to a
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burger joint.
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I finished lunch and I went to the cashier and said, "Hey,
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can I get a burger refill?"
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And he was all confused.
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I like, "What's a burger refill?"
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I said, "Well, just like a drink refill, but with a burger?"
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And he said, "Sorry, we don't do a burger refill, man."
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So, this is where rejection happened.
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I I could have run, but I stayed.
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I said, "Well, I love your burger.
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I love your your joint and if you guys do burger refill,
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I will love you guys more.
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And he said, "Well, okay.
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I'll tell my manager about it
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and maybe we'll do it
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but sorry we can't do this today."
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Then I left and by the way I don't think they ever done burger
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refill.
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I think they're still there.
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Um but the life
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and death feeling I was feeling the first time was no longer there just
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because I stay engaged
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because I didn't run.
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I said, "Wow, great.
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I'm already learning things."
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The more he practiced getting rejected on purpose, the less he feared rejection.
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He built up trust in his ability to handle discomfort instead of trying to
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control everything to be comfortable.
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Okay.
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Lastly, rumination.
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Rumination is literally chewing on the past,
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where you keep dwelling on your past mistakes or the wrongs you were wronged.
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Where you wish you'd done something differently
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or had taken a different path
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or just had the eagles drop you off at Mordor.
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Rumination is like a deep rut in a muddy road
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or or like an icy ski path.
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The more you travel it, the harder it is to escape.
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And rumination can be the fuel of depression, hopelessness, and despair.
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When this happens, our thinking patterns can get stuck
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and they can be really rigid.
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And that can be hard to escape.
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Now, you have to admit this.
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Rumination secretly feels good.
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When there's nothing you can do about the past,
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your brain likes to ruminate
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because it pretends that it is taking action by thinking about it.
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Uh once when I was in college,
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I'd been on a handful of dates with this guy, let's call him Alexander.
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Um things did not go anywhere after that.
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Then like 6 months later,
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I'm visiting my parents on Christmas Day and guess who knocks on the door?
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Alex.
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Um, I had no idea he was coming
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and I was pretty surprised to see him.
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It was pretty weird.
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Uh, but we found a quiet place to catch up on life.
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We talked for a little bit and he said, "Oh,
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I really wish we had tried to see if this relationship would work.
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I really regret that we didn't keep dating."
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Now, just to clarify, I didn't break up with him or anything.
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We just never were exclusive.
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We still lived in the same town.
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So, I basically just said, "There's no reason we can't try dating again.
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We're both single.
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I'm willing."
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And then he got super awkward
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and he said something about needing to go fix something on his car.
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And basically, that was the end of that.
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Now, for all I know,
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he had a dozen reasons why he didn't want to date me.
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That's cool.
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But if we take it at face value,
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what he said is the essence of depressive rumination.
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You dwell on your regrets,
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but you do nothing about them in the present moment.
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The essential skill to escape rumination is to identify the value
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and take action on it here in the present.
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What do you do with the regret that comes from making a mistake?
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Uh rumination.
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I ruin everything.
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Why can't I do anything right?
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Okay.
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So, what do you really value?
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A value is something within your control.
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I value trying hard.
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I value learning from my mistakes.
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I value taking responsibility.
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And the best thing about values is
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that you can always take action in the present.
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So what is the present moment action, fix one small part, apologize,
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learn one thing.
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By acting on your values,
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you shift out of rumination toward action here in the present moment.
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Okay, here's another one.
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I didn't speak up when I should have.
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Rumination.
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I should have said something.
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I'm such a coward.
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What do you value?
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Honesty, self-respect.
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What's your action?
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Write what you wish you had said.
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You're practicing a different action when you reflect and when you write.
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You're training your brain to act differently.
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You could also say something small but honest now.
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You could you could speak up in the next tiny moment.
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You practice the value now instead of beating yourself up for before.
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What if you snap at your kid?
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The rumination says, "I'm a terrible mom.
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I always mess this up.
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I shouldn't have yelled."
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The value underneath is being a caring parent, emotional safety, repairing relationships.
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Okay.
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So, what's your present moment action?
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Go give a hug.
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Apologize.
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Say, "I'm sorry I got loud."
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Make repairs.
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Sit on the floor and play for 2 minutes.
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Live that value of love
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and compassion by by treating yourself with patience
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and with compassion.
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Or schedule in some time for self-care
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so that you can respond differently next time.
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Now, none of this erases the past,
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but you're embodying that value of connection now.
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You've got to redirect your attention from the past to the now,
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and then just do one dang thing.
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Okay, now I get it.
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Rumination and overthinking can be really deep ruts to get out of.
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Sometimes we just can't make ourselves do it.
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We need some support.
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So there are some good medical treatments for depression
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that seem to help create new neural pathways.
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SSRIs um which is a form of antidepressant,
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were previously thought to help depression by fixing a chemical imbalance.
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Uh but now the theory is that they help with neuroplasticity.
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They make the brain more adaptable so it can make new connections.
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Ketamine therapy seems to help increase BDNF, which is brain-derived neurotropic factor.
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It's basically fertilizer.
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It helps neurons grow new branches and form new connections and repair damaged circuits.
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And all of this can help your brain be more flexible at building new
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thinking patterns.
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Uh so can TMS, transcranial magnetic stimulation.
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This is a treatment
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that can be done in the office
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and it has relatively few side effects,
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but it can help people really improve their ability to build new thinking patterns
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and get out of depression
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or even anxiety.
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One of the psychiatrists I've collaborated with said
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that these treatments are like
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when you get fresh snow on a ski hill.
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It's easier to get out of the icy ruts
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and create new pathways
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and new thinking patterns.
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But these medical options really are best when they're paired with cognitive therapy,
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working with a therapist to help change how you think
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so that you can ski these new mental trails.
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Okay, so there's four ways you can get stuck in overthinking
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or intrusive thoughts and four skills to get unstuck from them.
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I do want to mention a fifth skill.
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Mindfulness is a daily practice to notice your thoughts
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and redirect your attention to the present moment.
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A daily mindfulness practice is strength training for being able to do these other
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skills.
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It's like building up the mental muscle memory to be able to notice your
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thoughts and redirect.
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I'm personally using Insight Timer for some free courses on that.
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They are not a sponsor, but I like them.
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Okay, I hope that's helpful.
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Thank you so much for watching.
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And if you'd like to learn more skills to work with difficult thoughts
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or painful emotions,
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you can check out my online course, How to Process Your Emotions.
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It's part of my membership that has 10 courses.
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Thank you again and please take care.
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